"died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing"
Fucks sake AP, what's with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??
"died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing"
Fucks sake AP, what's with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??
Too bad nothing will be done about it.
This show ain't over, yet. You got a crystal ball?
Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the 55-year-old father of four was attempting suicide and the staff tried to save him.
...save him...
for themselves
Guaranteed they're lying. They're just trying to act like it doesn't matter that they murdered him because he was trying to kill himself anyway.
There is a WITNESS to his murder, who was mentioned in earlier articles. This needs to mean something.
"I'll do it! I'm gonna jump!"
Let me save you by giving you a slight push.
And those braindead maga fucks cheer it on. "Well he shouldn't have been illegal!" "He should've never come here in the first place!"
As if any of those excuses justify fucking murder.
MDCGA
Making Death Camps Great Again.
Land of the free, home of the brave.
Wow, so they strangle people to death now, too. Great.
Its a waste of manpower honestly. Maybe some sort of gas would be more efficient than individual stranglings.
Tap for spoiler
Please dont tell me this needs the sarcasm tag
I'm just waiting for a Grok generated video of another detainee doing it.
Died of asphyxiation. grrr. There's a heap of justice waiting to land on somebody. Several somebodies.
Maybe another protest sign will do the trick
Has anyone tried sending a sternly written letter suggesting body cameras during state sponsored chokings?
I like that my Lemmy app shows a little baby chick 🐣 icon next to brand new accounts. Super handy.
Protest signs are one step up from protest comments, though I agree that the pattern needs progression across the board.
Sure but this online, so comments are what we have in this space.
and it's the only space you take any action within
Just like you?
Way to tell on yourself, I never made the claim you did. If all your doing is commenting, you're doing nothing.
WHOA, Whoa, whoa. I have it on good authority that most lemmy commenters think commenting takes lots of effort. -This is based on my experience of telling people on here that "I couldn't care less" about certain issues and saying "commenting on lemmy takes next to no effort." Boy did those people try to convince me I was wrong.
Ice out here murdering people in their concentration camps-
New York court records show Lunas Campos was convicted in 2003 of sexual contact with a person under 11, a felony for which he was sentenced to one year in jail and placed on the state’s sex offender registry.
Actually I'll take a pass, I'll get upset at the next one
Everyone deserves due process no matter how heinous they are. If someone is denied due process, no one has due process.
Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I'm perfectly ok with denying them due process
Congrats, Trump has just designated you a Nazi ringleader, now you don't get due process. You say it isn't true, but how do you prove it if you aren't given due process? See how this is always fucking stupid? Everyone gets due process or nobody does.
And how is that different than what's happening right now? They've already decided that anyone who's trans or anti capitalist is a."terrorist"
Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I’m perfectly ok with denying them due process
Sadly even Nazi ringleaders, otherwise Republicans will simply label those protesting ICE as "Nazi ringleaders" to deny them due process. I'm a big fan of the due process that Nazi's received in Nuremberg and the outcome of those trial against those assholes.
This is the exact shit they want. They probably chose to murder this dude specifically for exactly this reason.
Don't fall for it.
It's ok. I'm sure all these dead people will be fine come midterms. Remember to film the ICE agents so we can maybe try and do something in court later. Oh, and stay peaceful when protesting the people actively attacking you with chemical weapons. You wouldn't want to give them a reason to be even more violent! Don't worry, we're voting to give more resources, training, and body cameras to the SS troops! Vote blue no matter who!
Lame ass fed posting. The only thing we'll get is more bodies and public opinion turning against us if we go your route. It's a fucking miracle that Trump hasn't been given his excuse to send in the military yet.
We need more protesting and more protesters, but the people out on the street so far are doing it right.
I'm one of those in the street you dumb ass. Have been since 2016. Until YOUR eyes are burning from pepper bombs and you're choking on gas, kindly shut the fuck up. It's not fed posting to criticize the failure of the Democratic party to do anything.
You want fed posting. Here, you go!
Grow up and arm yourself. They literally just told ICE agents to ignore the 4th amendment today. Literally an official command to violate your fundamental right. This isn't a joke. Get to know your neighbors and get organized.
Excuse me, but why haven't you started the (counter) violence yourself then?
It's not fed posting to criticize the failure of the Democratic party to do anything.
Funny how you think you did this, or that I was telling you not to.
Grow up and arm yourself.
Who says I haven't? Good advice BTW.
Excuse me, but why haven't you started the (counter) violence yourself then?
Asking such a dumb question shows your complete ignorance of activism or organization. But I don't want you being turned off from it by a frustrated internet commenter.
Maybe. I'm wrong. But you really sound ignorant. If you aren't doing anything, instead of replying with another condescending comment, do something else instead. Go search for DSA, PSL, or any immigrant rights organizations in your area and go sign up for the next available meeting. Join a meetup IN PERSON some time this week or next. Find a way to help.
If you're not in the US. Then I don't know why you'd even reply in the first place. So, I'm assuming you are.
Asking such a dumb question shows your complete ignorance
Someone who uses so much untagged sarcasm as you did ought to be able to recognize when others do, especially with how obvious I made it.
Maybe. I'm wrong. But you really sound ignorant.
You are.
go sign up for the next available meeting.
And you sound privileged. I have health issues that make that nearly impossible. I donate and participate as I can through PV. Comparing your activism to others you don't even know is also really lame, and I'll bet your local DSA organizers would discourage it.
Find a way to help.
I do what I can, and that includes calling out posters who sound like they are encouraging violence that will both hurt the cause and get more good people killed. Maybe consider the clarity of your comments going forward if that's not what you intend to communicate.
I literally never encouraged violence mate. I explained a real situation where thousands of people are being given the option of (1) get brutalized, kidnapped, or killed. Or (2) defend yourself.
That's it. You didn't like that that was reality. I don't like that either. But I understand why people will resort to violence as a means of defense from state violence. They will when all other systems have failed them. And they have. We are at the stage of SS troops door knocking for papers if you didn't notice.
YOU want people to keep choosing option (1). (Or are just ignorant which is clearly your issue) So you're incorrectly labeling me as the problem for even acknowledging that (2) is an option.
That's not encouraging violence. It's acknowledging reality of what happens when people are brutalized by the state. I don't want option (1) or (2). I want an option (3) the systems of state government to defend citizens. But that's not happening. They are offering NOTHING to stop people from being attacked.
You took my criticism of the lack of any option (3) as being advocating for option (2). I'm just acknowledging reality. Are you in denial and think option (3) is "going to work later" or something? Later isn't fucking helpful when it's happening right now and (1) and (2) are the choices.
I hope that clears it up. Because I'm not going to engage in your radlib identity bullshit you just tried to inject into the conversation for no reason.
But, you are ignorant of what's going on in the streets. Watching a video isn't giving you an experience of reality mate. You say I'm wrong that you're ignorant of this and then literally admit you can't go out on the streets. You are by definition ignorant of the experience on the street. Like, holy shit, how can you say you're not? You admitted it right after saying I'm wrong for calling you ignorant. Like, this level of hubris is shocking.
What exactly did I say that doesn't make sense? I think I was pretty clear.
What? No. I did actually think you were the other person though. My bad there, and that might be the source of confusion.
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