Cooperatives

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 3 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I there is a lot of different types of COOP, but I was thinking this way, why I said, COOP websites, the whole website(s) is COOP & all participants have a responsibility work together to keep all of the website(s) working, not just the feed talking about COOP. To me any type of COOP starts with every psingle participant have a responsibility to keep it operating properly & vote on as many as possible decisions.

No need to apologize. FLOSS software?

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

You are in fact posting this on a server ( slrpnk.net ) that is run by a coop like group ( f-hub.org ) and we hope to eventually become an official worker's coop in the future.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago

And I see you folks doing worker cooperative Open Source Gaming which just so happens the direction I want to go with my education in game development focused computer programming degree LoL

(Sorry for the highjack I just love expressing personal success)

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[–] solariplex@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

Awesome! Any particular reasons you're pursuing a workers' coop model, rather than a multi-stakeholder coop model or users' coop model?

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Well, it is still open for discussion. A worker coop seems closer to what we are currently doing, but if we change more towards providing services to users, that would be another option. Anyway, this isn't something that will happen soon and things are moving very slowly.

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[–] solariplex@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago

Sounds good, I wish for your path to be easily tread, and surrounded with good comrades

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (10 children)

FOSS stands for Free Open Source Software. It’s what Lemmy and everything else of the Fediverse is.

You don’t need to pay for its usage. Just download and set up with responsibility of maintaining being yours and any friends that are interested in being involved.

It’s why I said you don’t need a COOP. Just basic server hardware (like a laptop running a docker.) that has say the XMPP (and a communication system that is FOSS) software and your good to go.

Oversimplified, point is COOP not required

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago (9 children)

With all due respect, that is the software which can make easier to do COOP, but is not COOP itself, as point-out previous reply.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago (8 children)

Then I do apologize in that I am likely completely misreading what is being said

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

I am sorry, for not making it understood enough, I am saying (reference my reply about my definition of COOP) cannot be COOP if moderating is done by few & there is real check on their power. Every feed here, there is no all participants cycle through the moderating role & no check, no one above them, evaluation by all, on their actions. Before yesterday, there had been multiple times on this website, where other members & moderators have been BLANKS, even broke clearly feed’s definitions to remove my posts & one banned me! Thinking of I am probably headed towards leaving this website forever, but yesterday was perfect, like it started out to be.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Question when you say website do you mean slrpnk or Lemmy as a whole?

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

Piefeedwebsite, I have already left the individual feeds-websites, for the topics.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

Well I can’t speak for Pie Feed in how they do things.

And while I have an account here on Slrpnk I personally don’t have involvement on the moderation matters (nor even interested personally.) so can’t say if the instance is run in the manner you describe.

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago* (2 children)

No, I never was talking you/blaming you, just why I am thinking I will be switching to a COOP version of this & your software assisting you does not apply.

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[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Erm what I mean is I am not the person that can confirm if this instance is COOP run or not

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago

I know it is not, by my membership here.

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago

When it is not the moderators (even though yet no moderator has delete the personal & off topic attacks yet), it has been some repliers, like this example, you check it out, just crazy- https://piefed.social/post/1692674.

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[–] solariplex@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

You could check out https://social.coop/about if you're looking for microblogging.
If you're in Denmark https://ukrudt.net/ and https://data.coop/ run a variety of communication services for members.
Likewise with https://konstellationen.org/ in Sweden.
If you need email there's https://kollektiv.email/.
If you have more organisation-type needs there's https://mayfirst.coop/ and https://commonscloud.coop/

Would be good to make a directory of cooperative digital services providers. Maybe there is one somewhere?

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

Thanks, BOY DO I WISH I LIVING IN DENMARK, INSTEAD I LIVE IN THE OPPOSITE SOUTH FL., USA!

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[–] solariplex@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

In that case I suggest going with https://mayfirst.coop/ or https://riseup.net/ if what you want to do fits their profile (struggle for freedom, grassroots democracy, co-operatives, equality, environment, against imperialism, against capitalism, against fascism (f.ex. Trump), etc.).

If what you want to do doesn't fit that profile at least somewhat, https://hcoop.net/ might be more your thing.

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[–] GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social [S] 1 point 9 months ago

Thanks