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This one’s all on Logitech.
Is this why my MX Master buttons suddenly stopped working properly this morning?
Installing the patch fixes Options+ and returns everything back to normal.
Logitech did not drop the ball. It is insane that a company needs to keep paying Apple or their customer's hardware stops working.
Max headroom 20 minutes into the future: Your Tesla won't start because the tire manufacturer didn't pay Tesla the yearly certificate renewal.
That said I didn't buy Logitech for my new PC because of their bloat.
Logitech actually did drop the ball.
Already installed software keeps running when the cert expires unless the cert is revoked. Apple didn’t revoke the cert. Logitech did something wonky.
What’s even more insane? Apple has their OWN products that are no longer usable without hackery because their certificates have expired.
Then again, the alternative to all this is the Windows world where old drivers are now the method used to shovel malicious software onto the system, so there’s really no winning proposition.
Then again, the alternative to all this is the Windows world
Let me direct you this way… !linux@lemmy.world
Eventually Linux will be there, and this may be the year of SteamOS, but I can’t imagine the overlap of people using Linux as a desktop OS and people using custom configurations of Logitech input devices is all that large, outside people who can write their own systemd services and conf files from scratch. Just not the same user space.
the alternative to all this is the Windows world
you're absolutely begging to be told about the world of penguins
As if constantly pushing more AI slop into their software while making no real improvements wasn't enough...
Reading the article, I don't see how AI code was the fault in this situation. They let a developer certificate lapse without renewing it, so actually seems more like a process or human error; either their systems didn't flag for upcoming renewal sufficiently or the alert was ignored or missed.
I don't think the point was about AI code. Rather it's commentary about Logitech's priorities. There's quite a fair bit of AI features that pop up when one runs the Logi Options software. Instead of jamming AI stuff into it, they should focus on the more core functionality of their products such as not letting this certificate expire in the first place.
It's more that it's indicative of the engineering culture at Logitech. Business bros cry for more useless features and don't allow any time for infrastructure or technical debt. An unautomated cert like this (or no teams who monitor it) just screams process failure and lack of business allocation of engineering resources.
What mouse brand has a product similar to the MX Master that also works well in Linux?
Idk any mouse that won't work on Linux, but my next one will probably be a keychron
"Works well" = Can be fully utilized (macro keys, etc) without garbage proprietary software.
All MX master keys are recognized on Linux, but there aren't many extra keys, I don't think the official software lets you create macros either.
In any case, you usually don't need hardware-specific software to create macros on Linux because there are ways to remap keys and actions that are independent to the hardware used.
there are ways to remap keys and actions that are independent to the hardware used.
As I've been trying for days to get my logi mouse macros to work the same as it did in windows, I can say that's not true, or I've somehow missed the easy ways to do it.
The best I've come up with is to remap one key to a keyboard key that activates a separate autoclicker program, which is clunky and sub-optimal to say the least.
*Two weeks later and I finally have a reasonable solution in input-remapper after trying every other application I could find. It still took a little fudging around with other apps, but it's a much cleaner solution than I had before. Honestly, I'm mostly annoyed at this point that I somehow overlooked this one for so long. It was right there the whole time >.<
Yeah. My MX Master works on Linux, but sometimes the side buttons stop working.
I’ve heard good things about the Keychron mice. I’ll have to take a look. I think they have one that is very similar to the MX Master.
I use a Logitech MX Master 2S and 3S on my Fedora 43 machines using Solaar! Works better than on my legacy Mac OS builds that use legacy version of Logi Options+
The Developer ID certificate is the digital signature macOS uses to verify legitimate software. The certificate that Logitech allowed to lapse was being used to secure inter-process communications, which resulted in the software not being able to start successfully, in some cases leading to an endless boot loop.
This is 100% on Apple users for letting a company decide what their computer can and can't run. And then brag about its security like it has some super special zero trust architecture and is not just a walled garden with a single point of failure dependent on opaque decision making criteria for what code should be "allowed" to run on the system.
Key and signature based security model does not prove if it's safe, it proves if it's approved. They're not the same.
Macs don't get malware. Unless it's malware Apple approves, those are called apps.
Expired certs are a telling indicator of workplace chaos. This happens when good developers are replaced with much cheaper contractors, and all the shit the original devs did on the side gets lost.
It’s not the contractors’ fault. It’s short-sighted management that piss off good workers who can choose where they want to work.
For anyone looking for alternatives, LinearMouse is the best FOSS option (although I couldn’t get it to recognize the thumb button on my Logitech M720 Triathlon so this may extend to the Mx Master line as well)
Alternatively, BetterMouse ($7.99) and SteerMouse ($19.99) are solid options too. Both come with a free trial, 7 days, and 30 days respectively.
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