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[–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't think this hits as hard as you want it to. "Natural" arguments are going to hit on their face because, well, animals eat other animals, and if you're only not drinking an animal's milk because it's not natural, then are you okay eating one? No, obviously not. I like the arguments from a corporate farming standpoint that treats animals unethically, because it is factually true and morally justifiable from most, if not all, viewpoints. You should incorporate that in more, it's hard to defend against, but don't use "it's natural" because that is not a good argument.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not to mention what looks like a contradiction.

    If it was only made because a cow was forced by humans to give birth, doesn't that mean it was made for humans?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    By this logic you could say you empty your bladder for the purpose of avoiding the embarrasment of urinating on yourself in public, rather than the biological purpose of excreting waste products.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    So respectfully, nearly all of these same points about the product being taken could just as easily apply to plants. The chilli pepper plant does not give us peppers willingly and is also exploited and this all comes at the cost of it reproducing.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I was in at mother's milk, you don't need to convince me.

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