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[–] 40 points 10 months ago

"But how did the fight over lead bullets thwart efforts to regulate lead fishing tackle? Many hunting and fishing organizations have ties to the NRA, and they maintain that any effort to regulate tackle will open the door to regulating ammunition, and that any effort to regulate ammunition is an assault on Americans’ gun rights.

“One of the unusual things about lead is there are very few other toxic materials that have a huge public lobby in favor of them,” Pokras says. “You don’t see a lot of members of the public out there campaigning [for] more DDT or neonicotinoid pesticides. But with lead there’s a huge, wealthy, politically influential contingent supporting it.”

I fucking hate it here. I love loons.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I grew up somewhere hunting was an important part of the local culture, and I learned to hunt at a young age. We often chose copper bullets rather than lead for performance reasons. A ban on lead bullets would not make hunting meaningfully harder. Copper costs more, but if ammunition cost has a significant impact on someone's ability to hunt, they're doing it wrong.

    A ban on lead practice ammunition would have a significant impact, but the article does not discuss that.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Can you diy copper shot/bullets? I saw movies where melting lead for ammo was a thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    My dad has cast his own lead bullets. The equipment to do it is inexpensive and commercially available, and it's easy to come by scrap lead. It's common for hobbyists to add tin and antimony to adjust the hardness.

    Copper has a much higher melting point than lead, so it would be more difficult and dangerous to attempt to cast it with hobbyist-grade equipment. I'm not sure if casting copper would produce good bullets; a quick web search suggests copper bullets are made by machining or cold swaging. It would certainly be possible to make bullets from round ropper rods by machining them with a hobbyist-grade lathe, but it would be time-consuming.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    It's bizarre to me that loons were hated and killed for fun. Just for how they looked?

    I'm from Vermont and yeah when I was a kid we used lead sinkers without a second thought. We breathed it out of car exhaust without a second thought too. Today I can't think of any behavior easier to change than throwing a poisonous element into the environment for sport.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's because of how they look? But they're so pretty. And the sound of a loon call is one of the best sounds any animal produces. Are we missing something?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Good question, I was just alluding to the part in the article that read

    European settlers so disliked these “ill-shap’d” birds

    but I too wonder if the birds have some other habits that people think they should die for? And the part about hunting ... I've never heard of people hunting loons for food (? or for the feathers maybe?) so I guess shooting them would be for the fun of it and/or to reduce their numbers.

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