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[–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

On the spaceflight note, it’s rather sad that the Soviets harassed and imprisoned Yuri Kondratyuk since his work was vital in the moon landing and orbital mechanics in general.

If his work in space flight was supported and not repeatedly crushed by authorities, the USSR might’ve landed on the moon first. Instead, he was imprisoned by the NVKD for some of his engineering designs (for “sabotage” of not using nails, which is a dumb thing on its own).

And eventually, he gave all his aerospace notes to a friend to smuggle them out of the country because he feared the govt would accuse him of treason like they had Sergei Pavlovich Korolev (the guy who made Sputnik 1).

The Soviets could have won the space race, if it weren’t for the “authoritarianism” you’re trying to make light of

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The Soviets could have won the space race

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    A) that’s actually good meme haha

    B) the space race ended when the US landed on the moon, if you run a 5k and get to 4.9k ahead of everyone but then don’t cross the finish line, you’ve still lost the race

    Anyway the point of my comment wasn’t “the US beat the Soviets because they’re authoritarian” it was “the Soviets had everything they needed to absolutely dominate space travel but their authoritarianism hindered their scientific progress significantly”

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    B) the space race ended when the US landed on the moon, if you run a 5k and get to 4.9k ahead of everyone but then don’t cross the finish line, you’ve still lost the race

    Im not sure how to explain to you that if youre the one declaring what the goal is, you essentially declare yourself the winner. If I declare that the first person to be in space is the winner of the space race, the UDSSR won? It's what the meme is hinting at

    the Soviets had everything they needed to absolutely dominate space travel but their authoritarianism hindered their scientific progress significantly

    A) every single state in this planet is authoritarian. What matters is the class character. Read this: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

    B) habe you considered that the reason the Soviet had everything they needed to absolutely dominate space travel was due to the system they had?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Oh hey it's that weird undergrad who keeps lying about being being involved in research (and who keeps calling himself an engineer while still in school). Now you're here vomiting up garbage about how bad the USSR was? When aren't you cringe as fuck?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago*

    Oh look it’s the creep who calls me a liar for not specifying I was a student in a single comment section where I’d previously mentioned I was a student.

    I even apologized last time you made a comment like this (once I figured out that was the “lie” in my comments), and I edited that old comment for clarity just for you. Your reply to my apology ended up getting removed by the mods before I could see it, so I guess that didn’t help, and here you are again this time claiming I’m not even involved in research.

    Idk what to say anymore man, just block me if my username pisses you off enough that you feel compelled to keep bringing this shit back up. It’s not healthy

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    So, uh, did communism work for them?

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago*

    It was socialism and yes it worked tremendously considering the fact that they sacrificed 20M+ lives in WW2 and were subject of western imperialism forcing them to spend most resources on the cold war

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    My confusion is why collapse back to capitalism?

    Let's start with some axioms. There is a continuum of stages of human societal progression with socialism following after capitalism. Under socialism the workers run the state. USSR socialism was great for the worker.

    Given the axioms, why would the USSR decide to create a capitalist class again?

    The USSR's results in the face of outside pressure were great however. Why buckle after putting up such a fight?

    Why can struggle against external power move human societal progression backwards?

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    [–] -5 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    Ah yes, life was just a peach for ppl living behind the iron curtain for the bulk of the 20th century.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    That's right I'm sensitive to seeing imbecilic drivel spewed in public.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Exchange of ideas implies having actual ideas to exchange which you clearly do not.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    The only thing that's delicious here is your dedication to making a clown of yourself in public.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Thank you Yogthos it’s been a pleasure conversing with you.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Ah, the intellectual feast is over. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming of sniffing glue and huffing gas.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I don't really care what you think. You're just an internet troll, I'm merely presenting facts for other people reading this thread who have the mental capacity to read the sources I provide. Seems like the only one who's angry here is you. Sitting at home, desperately trying to get attention. Sad.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    My dude, just because you don’t agree with my position on communism doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Are you 10?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago*

    It's not me not agreeing with your drivel, it's literally every piece of empirical research showing that you're spewing utter nonsense.

    Study demonstrating the steady increase in quality of life during the Soviet period (including under Stalin). Includes the fact that Soviet life expectancy grew faster than any other nation recorded at the time:

    A large study using world bank data analyzing the quality of life in Capitalist vs Socialist countries and finds overwhelmingly at similar levels of development with socialism bringing better quality of life:

    This study compared capitalist and socialist countries in measures of the physical quality of life (PQL), taking into account the level of economic development.

    This study shows that unprecedented mortality crisis struck Eastern Europe during the 1990s, causing around 7 million excess deaths. The first quantitative analysis of the association between deindustrialization and mortality in Eastern Europe.

    Romania, the inustrialization of an agrarian economy under socialist planning

    We can also look at how people who lived under communism feel now that they got a taste of capitalism?

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  • [+] -12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    To be fair, I’m not endorsing capitalism. Capitalism is the 21st century blight as communism was in the 20th.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago

    Yeah it's crazy what you can achieve when you turn millions of people into a slave army for a dictatorship

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