“We’re going to need the help of robots and other forms of, uhhh, I guess you could say employment,” he said, shrugging. “We’re going to be employing a lot of artificial things.”

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[–] 211 points 10 months ago (17 children)

When reached for comment, White House Deputy Press Secretary Anna Kelly told the Daily Beast in a statement, “It’s sad that Daily Beast interns cannot grasp the concept of pro-growth policies that create jobs. Their minds are clearly warped after cheering on Joe Biden as he wrecked our economy for four years.”

The pettiness is unreal.

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  • [–] 151 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

    This is not "pettiness". This is all part of a multi-generational psychological warfare operation to brainwash the working class and implement totalitarian dictatorship — started by the Koch Bros, Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, and other wealthy narcissists several decades ago — and the fascists are winning; facilitated by "liberals" who are mostly a manufactured opposition, financed by the same corporations/oligarchs.

    No war but class war, and the capitalist class is winning.

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The rhetoric that politicians are idiots and they don't know what they're doing is also damaging, because it makes people assume stupidity rather than malice.

    But it is malice. The incompetence is real, make no mistake, but malice is in fact the end goal.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    When profits are involved, always assume malice.

    The only time you should assume stupidity is when dealing with family, friends, colleagues, frontline workers, etc; basically anyone you interact with who wouldn't profit off the malice (eg the sales person or marketing team will lie to make a sale).

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The rhetoric that all politicians are corrupt and evil is also extremely damaging, and is parroted strictly by conservatives and the daft-right who then go on voting for the most corrupt and evil ones every time.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Its also parroted by the left because we can see the corporate backers funding the various politicians.

    Citizens United was the greatest coup the ruling class could have gotten (before social media anyway), and its made it trivial to corrupt our politicians. And we can see how stances change or how there's always juuuuuust enough politicians to vote for some horrible bill to pass or kill a bill good for the people. Its kinda sad how many people don't see this.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Never believe that anti-Semites [read: fascists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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  • [+] -14 points 10 months ago* (6 children)
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    I'd say educational system, or better, it's downfall through decades, plays a significant role in making population dumb enough to not see through these constant lies.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago*

    The multigenerational operation directly involves the defunding of, and attacks on, education. This isn't a this or that situation. ALL conservative and neoliberal policy since the 1970's is about destroying ALL socialist/liberal/democratic advances made to date, and returning the working class to ignorant destitution; much easier to control and brainwash mentally-ill morons (see MAGA).

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  • [–] 134 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    I wish he'd fucking die already

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  • [–] 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

    Then we'd have President Vance and first Mistress Kirk. This cancer is going to take a while to cut out if it doesn't outright kill us.

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  • [–] 75 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Cult leaders need charisma and couchfucker ain't got it. He might end out pres in that hypothetical but he wouldn't have the implied maga threat behind him Trump does so I think he'd get a lot less of the agenda pushed.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    He also race mixed which will cause some infighting that I feel will be as enjoyable as NYE fireworks 👌

    (i have no problems there, but they sure as hell do, lmao)

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    I don't think they need to "win" any elections at all anymore. It won't matter who the repugs put up as a candidate, they will win. If a democrat wins in 2028 and there is a peaceful transition of power, I will never again claim any even borderline conspiratorial shit in my life, and so I swear.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Jd will not be nearly as bad as Trump. Stop pretending it's the same thing.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    It doesn't matter if Trump dies, horribly or not, the energy that got Trump elected is still there in the American culture, and the next time it rears its head it'll be a lot more competent and far more vicious.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I need him to stay alive and receive punishment, impeachment and incarceration for all his crimes before he kicks the bucket..this fascist, racist, felon, clown fuck

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  • [–] 119 points 10 months ago (29 children)

    I love it when they follow Trump's name with his age. Fuck the gerontocracy

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  • [+] -11 points 10 months ago (28 children)

    Would socialism and collectivism help empower youth?

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    There is no “-ism” that can save the US anymore

    They need a revolution and a new system. More than two parties and limits on presidential power

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    What about the principles of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    It doesn't work on a large scale because people with Cluster B personality disorders will always corrupt any system we come up with.

    And historically those systems are typically structured in a way that allows authoritarianism and dictators to take over more quickly. The government has to control everything, which creates a much smaller point of failure.

    Capitalism is a shit system, but it took ~200 years to corrupt to this point because the power is more distributed (at first).

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    Capitalism is a shit system, but it took ~200 years to corrupt to this point because the power is more distributed (at first).

    The US is reaching the average lifespan of an Empire. Capitalism has not been particularly good at preventing collapse, it has been about average.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It's not just the US; we're just speed running the end while the western world follows behind.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    US exceptionalism once again.

    "We're not shit, everyone is shit! But we're better at being shit than everyone else!"

    Okay then.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Feel free to keep your head buried in the sand, then.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Because "everyone else is doing the same thing" isn't a form of dismissing the problem and burying your head in the sand.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago*

    Acknowledging that a problem is more wide spread than just one country isn't dismissing anything. In fact, I addressed that fact that the US is worse than the rest.

    I think your reading comprehension needs some work.

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  • Depends on when you consider the corruption of the wealthy came in. The Civil War was fought over slavery and it was because rich land barons in the south didn't want to have workers they paid anything to. So they also greased government hands to try and keep it. So the rot set in quickly, it just took longer to metastasize.

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    Yeah, then we can have President Grok whose opinion can be changed by whomever touches the code.

    The only thing worse than a person whose opinion changes based on the last person they talk to, is an AI whose opinion changes based on what oligarch or employee was able to sneak something into the model/code.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    no. The US will still be as dumb and as divided as before.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    What about using force?

    In Minecraft

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    then you deserve someone like trump.

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    You want a leader that dominates the country using force. Well congrats you got that leader its Trump. You dont get to pick between democracy and authoritarianism when it suits you.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    What about achieving socialism without using force?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    You wont be able to strip away peoples right to own private capital without force? Even if we pretend that the government was able to somehow democratize majority of the economies captial there would still be the issue that we see in all socialist/communist countries where government workers are a tier above everyone else and abuse that power both directly and indirectly.

    If you cant own anything yourself then you are forced to rely on the government for everything and hope that they are benevolent. If America magically became socialist today, trump would be the leader, do you trust him with absolute control over the entire nation?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    What do you think of Marxism-Leninism?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    It has some ok critiques of capitalism and some ok framing for class interactions but I think its a terrible ideology full of holes and logical inconsistencies. I hate the idea of a vanguard party, I hate the idea of removing private ownership. I think Marxist-Leninists are in the same bucket as nazi's or any kind supremacist.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    You do realize this is a federated site, right? There are Marxist-Leninists here. Here's a challenge: I want you to repeat what you just said in !socialism@lemmy.ml. The replies are gonna be full of ML people rightfully correcting you with legitimate criticism

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Yes I know its federated, I dont control which instances .world federates with nor am I afraid of seeing opinions i disagree with. .ML people wouldnt correct me on their instance I'd just get banned. You can go through the mod logs yourself if you want to see how the handle any discussion that isnt bootlicking.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Are you more of a libertarian socialist?

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago

    This implies that sometimes he rants coherently which is not true.

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  • [–] 88 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    Boomers in the 1980s: "Those damn robots took our darn jorbs"

    Trump in 2025: "We're giving these jorbs to the robots"

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    You will continue to labor all day for reduced pay, while the robot pretends to do art all day

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago* (6 children)

    Reduced pay? If the rich get their way, we're going to be chattel slaves. They hate us so much and are so disgusted with us, even the worst wage slavery is too good for us.

    They'll kill off the unclean and disabled in mass exterminations, enslave us for a time while/if their ai gets good enough, and eventually when robots are good enough to replace even slaves, the rich will hunt us for sport and do coloseum games on us.

    People really underestimate how fucking awful the ruling class is. They are wicked, despicable people who genuinely think anything above slavery and bowing to them is too good for us poors.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    There is a word for the future you are describing: exterminism.

    Sadly the world appears to be heading that way. This is the most bleak future described in one of my favorite books- Four Futures:Life After Capitalism

    It's a quick read . .and highly recommended. https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/products/59-four-futures

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Unless WE give the robots some rather interesting military jobs first.

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    Would not even need an AM to do that to some people {=

    They have much debt to pay, oh so much.

    109 years is not nearly enough, is it?

    Hmm?

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago

    This dumb fucking child rapist

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    To think Trump 1.0 was an improvement over this shit show.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Trump 1.0 he was actually there still, easily manipulated but still there. Now he's just a puppet with dementia.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Nah, 1.0 was only better because he spent the whole time figuring out wtf to do. He didn't even know he had to hire his own cabinet. 2.0 is the result of those four years of realizing the power and protection of the position, and another four of teams of knowledgeable people working hard to make sure this term would be the last they'd ever need.

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