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Tourists to US would have to reveal five years of social media activity under new Trump plan (www.theguardian.com)
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From the "papers, please" dept.:

All tourists to the United States would have to reveal their social media activity from the last five years, under new Trump administration plans.

Customs and Border Protection (CBP), an agency under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), would also require any email addresses and telephone numbers visitors have used in the same period, and the names, addresses, birthdates and birthplaces of family members, including children.

The proposal was published on Tuesday in a Federal Register notice, the official publication of the US government, which is put out daily. This called the new disclosures “mandatory” for entry into the US. It would apply to people of all countries, regardless of whether they require visas or are currently permitted to complete an Electronic System for Travel Authorization (Esta) instead. That includes visitors from Britain, Australia, Germany and Japan, who are not required to get a tourist visa before visiting the US.

The notice gives members of the public two months to comment. DHS did not respond to media outlets’ requests for comment.

I can't help but think of the massive wasteful spending this will entail.

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[–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

....which would no doubt being "accidentally" applied to traveling US citizens.

There's no way this is constitutional.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Does that fucking matter in any meaningful way at this point?

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    • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    the US Customs and Border Protection agency (CBP) said it would also require any telephone numbers used by visitors over the same period, and any email addresses used in the last decade, as well as face, fingerprint, DNA and iris biometrics. It would also ask for the names, addresses, birthdates and birthplaces of family members, including children.

    JFC, that's burying the lede. Social media, whatever—good luck; ain't nothing linked to my real name. But there ain't no vacation worth handing over a DNA sample to a corrupt, authoritarian government.

    Why anyone is still traveling to the US for a vacation under the current Republican regime is beyond me.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Here's a fun thing that was already an issue at US border crossings years ago: Not having social media accounts under your real name is considered suspicious and can result in additional searches and lengthy questioning.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Why anyone is still traveling to the US for a vacation under the current Republican regime is beyond me.

    I was planning on going to the US a few years ago but cancelled all plans indefinitely as it simply isn't safe. I don't think I'll ever go to the US again at this rate.

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    • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    How to erase all foreign travel and business in one easy step.

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    [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Why anyone would have a social media account under their real name these days is insane to me.

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    [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I'm surprised it doesn't apply to Americans who are returning to the US!

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    [–] 34 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry Americams. I didnt really want to visit before you self-nazified. Certainly dont now.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    No need to apologize. In fact, at this point, please stay away. Once tourism completely dries up, even more people will see how awful this situation is and begin resisting. All those rich cities and towns will realize we need to be a place people want to come to, and to do that, we need to be less awful in so many ways. The status quo is still not broken enough for too many people.

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    • [–] 32 points 11 months ago

    Uh yeah. I'll take Canada or Cuba, thanks.

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    [–] 23 points 11 months ago

    And this is how all tourism to the US died

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    [–] 16 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Just straight up a violation of the 4th Amendment, and if there are any legal repercussions for the content of your accounts, depending on the nature content and the consequences of it, could be violations of the 1st and 5th amendments. These constitutional rights cover every single man woman and child on US soil, even visitors. There is no way any of this is legal.

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    • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    At what point do these countries start reciprocating?

    Start subjecting Americans (who can afford to go abroad) to the same bullshit we subject foreigners to and we might find support for the regime evaporating...

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Never. European countries gain nothing from tourists going to USA. They get money from USA tourists coming to Europe. It's a win-win for Europe: more European tourists staying here while US tourists still coming to spend their money. Why fight it?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    But according to the article, these new hurdles will apply to visitors under the ESTA waiver also. And those are just as likely to be business travelers on short trips as they are full-on tourists.

    Tell American executives that they can't enter Europe, even for a week, without surrendering their own social media history and then they get to experience actual consequences.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    So all the business meetings will be happening in Europe. It's still a win for Europe. Governments rarely do things just to show people what it's like.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't mean to jump down your throat on this, my beef isn't with you. But I think it's attitudes like this that enable Fascist regimes to establish themselves.

    If things continue to go badly here in the US then historians will view this as "appeasement". Not standing up against Fascism because it was more profitable that way.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Yeah, I'm not saying what I'm for or against, just saying what EU will do and why.

    And I don't think anyone will see letting Americans in as an appeasement. By numbers most Americans are not MAGA so US wide ban would be unfair group punishment, you want to leave the door open for anyone who wants to escape US and punishing normal citizens will not change anything. EU is not in a position to fight US. They way to win is to stand your ground on human rights and work to become independent of American influence which EU is doing moderately good job at.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Honestly stop pussy footing and just issue a total embargo on the US as a whole, every base, territory, or ship included. No exceptions, if Air Force one pokes it's shitty head into any sovereign airspace it gets obliterated, if any American ships pop up on foreign shores then they're impounded and scrapped.

    Treat us worse than the fucken Norks. This empire is collapsing regardless may as well speed it up a bit.

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    • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    "Sorry, I don't use social media." (hands over burner phone)

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Can't delete data from a phone that never had it. 😉 Bonus if you hand them a dumb phone.

    "Oh, my phone? Sure, here you go!"

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    True. But then they can just arrest you for being a liar, regardless of if it’s true.

    We gotta get rid of this Trump asshole…

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    • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    What if you dont use social media???

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    [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Poor Infantino. So much sucking up to Trump and all he gets is lower attendance for the world cup.

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    [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    What if they don't use social media?

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    [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    meet the new Trump plan, same as the old Trump plan

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