Video shared on social media shows a Waymo driving through a red light and into an active police standoff in downtown Los Angeles.

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[–] 95 points 11 months ago (13 children)

How tf do you get to the ‘put an autonomous vehicle on the road’ stage without ever considering police directions to a driver, or basic safety around first responders??

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  • [–] 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve always said that edge cases will continue to plague “AI” things like self driving cars until true AGI exists. In the decades I’ve been driving I’ve seen all manner of edge cases that neither Waymo nor any other self driving car would handle properly.

    One example I like to use is when I stopped at a red light next to a construction site. I was watching the red light and didn’t see a cop next to the construction zone who was waving me through the red light. He eventually took a few steps towards my car and yelled to get my attention, after which I drove through the red light.

    For a self driving car to respond in a situation like that it would need to recognize the cop as an authority figure and not just a pedestrian that is overriding the red light you stopped at.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    i am aware of the sarcasm and i support trains, but they do suffer from the 'last mile' issue. I cannot easily make to the nearest metro station without driving there. I commute on the DC beltway - its a horrific superhighway that goes to like 5 lanes on either side at some points. I have daydreamed about a kind of track in the center line where cars could drive on to a 'rail' and somehow get off the rail at the right point. I dont know how the tech would work (clearly) but something where personal vehicles can linkup on a shared rail line could be interesting.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    I've been saying this for over a decade and it's served me well.

    Its even worse with LLMs, at least an autonomous vehicle has a set functionality, but people are using LLMs to solve all sorts a problems.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Imagine if they were in an active shootout, that thing just goes driving through the middle.

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  • [–] [S] 93 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I wish those dumb driverless cars disrupted ICE raids instead...

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago

    It's lucky it is white.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    What if we put the cars on rails and made them longer to hold more people at once?

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  • [–] 59 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    lmao

    When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities.”

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    In response to the incident, a company spokesperson told NBC that “safety is our highest priority at Waymo"

    In all the recent stories about Waymos cruising right on past stopped school buses that have their stop sign out, lights flashing, and kids crossing, they said the same thing. They also stated that Waymos "will not be taken off the streets for now." That's even though it's still happening even after they updated the software and thought they'd fixed it.

    My first thought was, Why the hell do they get to say whether or not their Waymos will be taken off the streets?! Why aren't they being told to get the damn things off the streets until they've proved this won't happen again? Have we all just completely rolled over for the oligarchs to the point where we just let them do anything they want even after they've killed animals and nearly killed schoolchildren? (that's a rhetorical question of course).

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    Someday: “Our officers, in fear for their lives, had no choice but to fire upon the approaching Waymo when it refused to obey their orders to stop. We regret the unfortunate collateral damage inflicted to the passengers, which was unavoidable.”

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago

    That's not a fucking standoff wtf. That's some dude laying flat on the ground as a bunch of heavily arm thugs bark orders at him, threatening him with lethal violence if he doesn't lay on the ground like a dog.

    Jesus futurism, wtf is this narrative

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Waymo paying tribute to the 20th anniversary of Leeroy Jenkins

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    Well it could be worst. Imagine it drive right through a gang war or maybe right into a giant sinkhole that just opened.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    The cops were “stunned”? Really? This is pretty normal for autonomous cars. Had they all stepped through a time portal from 2010?

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago

    ACAB: Autonomous Cars are Bulldozing

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    drove through a red light

    just feet away from the driver, who was lying face down on the asphalt

    Neither of these statements in the article are correct. The video shows the light turning red after the car goes through the intersection and has a cut in the video before showing the driver of the white SUV get out and lay down.

    Watching on mute it just looks like the road is closed and turning left/right would be the right move...

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Choose all the squares where a cop isn't laying low to the ground...

    Blue bag of chips, t-shirt on the ground, fuzzy blue ink on road, blue squirrel, rubble pile of blue stuff. All perfectly fine items.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Translation: Cops pissed off that a robot car doesn't think they're the main character.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    In the video, officers can be heard yelling at the Waymo to clear the area. Instead it did the exact opposite, slowing to a crawl and trying to sidle up to the curb, right near where the suspect was being held at gunpoint.

    “Go to your left! Go to your left!” an officer can be heard yelling as the driverless cab throws its right-side blinker on. Of course, the Waymo doesn’t respond to outside verbal commands.
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    a company spokesperson told NBC that... "When we encounter unusual events like this one, we learn from them as we continue improving road safety and operating in dynamic cities.”

    I hope their takeaway isn't to let thugs barking orders at cars dictate what the car should do.

    I appreciate that the car understood not to follow the demands of some uniformed gangster standing in the road with a gun pointed at some dude on the ground.

    I wish people would be as anarchist as this car. Fuck the police

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    What? No! What if it had a person?

    I hate cops too, but having a driverless vehicle driving into a shooting is bad

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Well, hopefully the company's actions will be to open the doors, tell the passengers to get out, and then run over the police, open the doors, and tell the poor guy on the street:

    get in if you want to live!

    Then speed away

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Oh come on guys let’s not be too negative.

    Maybe it was trying to get the guy out of a jam.

    Mandatory /s

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I like the future where we can call self driving getaway cars to rescue us from a bunch of heavily armed, uniformed thugs threatening to kill us

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