Jazz, Rock, Disco, and Rap, at minimum.
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I feel like the roots of basically all western mudic today are African American, if you consider techno to have come from hiphop/r&b and punk rock.
Except for traditional Folk from various European locations. I think this still counts as "Western Music", even if it isn't that popular.
If you consider the Western World to be purely Northern America, then I think you're right, since Native American tribes are normally not considered Western.
Imo, the best music comes from a mix of various cultures, I'm a huge fan of Folk Rock/Metal. (Rock and thus Metal obviously coming from Blues).
Definitly true and fair point, yes i meant pop music in western countries. Also still a lot of new classical music being released. I would be more right if i had said 'almost all genres of western pop music have Afro-American roots'.
All good, I didn't want to accuse you of being wrong or anything. I just like to think of exceptions in cases like that. And I learned a few things on the way :)
In Germany, we differentiate E- and U-Musik. E (Ernst) means "serious" and is classical music and stuff. U (Unterhaltung) = entertainment and is everything African American inspired (Jazz, Rock, Pop, hip hop, ...). This difference basically exists to devalue everything that isn't central European in origin
Adam Neely has a good video on this. Music is constantly judged on how well it conforms to "the harmonic style of 18th century European musicians"
Yeah... Mozart's compositions definetly are only serious and not for entertainment at all. Stuff like... checks notes "Leck mich im Arsch" or the original text of "Bona Nox". /s
y'all should stop differentiating them
True and it's far less common nowadays I think. I haven't heart it for a while. I remember in school our teacher discussed it critically but not from a CRT perspective but more like "some classical music is quite danceable and some blues can get quite serious", not "this is a eurocentric concept and we should stop it"
This scenario has happened so many zillion times it's not the least bit astounding - something becomes popular with a group of people, then another group and another, in spite of some people hating it or sometimes because of that, and the business world figures out how to make money off it.
Take country music, for example, and all the black parents who were afraid of it, but the black kids who loved it. /s
The trend is fetishizing black culture; music is just a part of that.
or, you know, black culture has been very prolific and makes good art so it appeals to a lot of people. I think calling it fetishizing is a bit insulting to the counter itself; as if it doesn't have its own merit.
dominating the art scene had been historically true of a lot of minorities in various countries. I guess art is one thing you can't take away from people easily.
I think it is fetishizing when you systemically oppress black people but coopt their art.
that's appropriation, and black people themselves are fetishized, but I don't know if that's appropriate to say about the culture.
The black people are being farmed for cash by the executives and stockholders.
"The Black Youth" were motivated to buy a whole new identity to relate to country. They are taking back something from white people. Buy buying the things to make them look country.
Things that were lacking buyers from traditional demographics because they had always been country. Now those companies have more people to sell to. Same owners tho.
That's the key fetish. Money.
Yeah my point is that thinking of it as fetishizing black culture is a very narrow view of a much more universal human behavior, where people like whatever they like without bothering to filter it by who found out about it first, and business people maks a buck out of any and every trend no matter where it came from.
What you're saying just isn't true, though, or at least doesn't explain the sheer fascination of contemporary white americans with mimicking every aspect of black culture
"The only art form that Americans have invented, that will commend us down through the years to posterity, is a music born primarily in a community that has the historical memory of being unfree is a supposedly free land" - Ken Burns
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