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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 80 points 1 year ago (41 children) Jazz, Rock, Disco, and Rap, at minimum. permalink fedilink source hideshow 41 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 23 points 1 year ago* (8 children) Dubstep has strong roots to Jamacian Dub. https://youtu.be/NUOeHoLCisw. Except for the dub guys, are actual wizards making all of their effects with analog technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] huppakee@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) Also reggea and dancehall come from Jamaica as well, incredible such a small country having so much influence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Rock Steady too permalink fedilink source parent [–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (7 children) Blues? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) It's assumed here that rock is derived from blues EDIT : Blues is blues, which is obviously black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory Big if true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago source permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) cite reference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children) eeeeeeeh. I think death/tech death is where the blues influence starts being more vestigial, and it starts borrowing more from classical. Even Polka (what is a blastbeat but a fast polka beat?) Are the diminished scales really from blues? Do the blues musicians play straight 32nd notes the way classical musicians do? From an evolutionary standpoint, it definately does, since blues to rock to sabbath to metal, but death metal onwards really feels distinct. Especially symphonic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children) stuff like maiden, priest, venom etc, which i can’t stand oddly enough. first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] vala@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Funk, Blues, R&B, Reggae, Bebop, Swing... permalink fedilink source parent [–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Techno came from black kids on Detroit listening to Kraftwerk and then exporting that sound back to Germany permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They lived in Belleville, but no one knows where that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I do, it's in long island. permalink fedilink source parent [–] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) Punk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) The band known as "death" https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL71xICgSKYzlEYreXb96htKm8sacZIa-0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) is this a meme about race, or a racist meme? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) About race fetishism and commercial exploitation, I believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago by only white people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Forester@pawb.social 23 points 1 year ago* (8 children) Dubstep has strong roots to Jamacian Dub. https://youtu.be/NUOeHoLCisw. Except for the dub guys, are actual wizards making all of their effects with analog technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] huppakee@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) Also reggea and dancehall come from Jamaica as well, incredible such a small country having so much influence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Rock Steady too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (7 children) Also reggea and dancehall come from Jamaica as well, incredible such a small country having so much influence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Rock Steady too permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Rock Steady too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (4 children) Ska punk is my absolute favourite genre of music. Streetlight Manifesto, Less Than Jake, Faintest Idea, Mad Caddies, and the Suicide Machines are all bands I love, to name a few. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) what's your most recent favorite album? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Right now, it's Ska Dream by Jeff Rosenstock, and by extension its sister album No Dream. I'm also really looking forward to Streetlight's next album The Place Behind The Stars, as the few songs they've let us hear from it are already incredible despite not being entirely finished. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) nice, thanks for the recommendation! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago No problem! I recommend Jeff's entire discography, especially his projects The Arrogant Sons of Bitches and Bomb the Music Industry!. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago Rock Steady too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (7 children) Blues? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) It's assumed here that rock is derived from blues EDIT : Blues is blues, which is obviously black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory Big if true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago source permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) cite reference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) It's assumed here that rock is derived from blues EDIT : Blues is blues, which is obviously black. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory Big if true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago source permalink fedilink source parent [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) cite reference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory Big if true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child) Blues is the plural of blue which is a different color from black according to modern color theory Big if true permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago source permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Rock had a whooole lot of influences including white ones. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) cite reference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) cite reference permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago How much time do you have, ha? This is one of the most well researched pieces of work I've ever come across. Like somebody's PhD dissertation. A ten year project for the author. I can't recommend it enough. So just to throw some names out there of white people who significantly influenced rock music: Johnny Otis, Bob Wills, Cosimo Matassa. Seriously, check out this podcast you're interested in this stuff. I think it's on other platforms if you don't have Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/show/7KGhTDsEpOgBAT24WfpTkk permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children) eeeeeeeh. I think death/tech death is where the blues influence starts being more vestigial, and it starts borrowing more from classical. Even Polka (what is a blastbeat but a fast polka beat?) Are the diminished scales really from blues? Do the blues musicians play straight 32nd notes the way classical musicians do? From an evolutionary standpoint, it definately does, since blues to rock to sabbath to metal, but death metal onwards really feels distinct. Especially symphonic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children) stuff like maiden, priest, venom etc, which i can’t stand oddly enough. first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children) eeeeeeeh. I think death/tech death is where the blues influence starts being more vestigial, and it starts borrowing more from classical. Even Polka (what is a blastbeat but a fast polka beat?) Are the diminished scales really from blues? Do the blues musicians play straight 32nd notes the way classical musicians do? From an evolutionary standpoint, it definately does, since blues to rock to sabbath to metal, but death metal onwards really feels distinct. Especially symphonic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children) stuff like maiden, priest, venom etc, which i can’t stand oddly enough. first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘 permalink fedilink source parent [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children) stuff like maiden, priest, venom etc, which i can’t stand oddly enough. first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago I call that a healthy cultural mix! 🤘😁🤘 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (8 children) stuff like maiden, priest, venom etc, which i can’t stand oddly enough. first time you hear possessed seven churches hello you can't go back with your Iron Maiden permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) IDK, Deathspell are more famous for being prog or avant garde or something. I'm pretty sure (but not 100% certain) that Luc is not a nazi, he does a lot of stuff about middle eastern and asian history permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago "Deathspell omega", not deathspell, and yeah the singer -- Mikko Aspa -- is the founder of the one-man-band"clandestine blaze" which is NSBM permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago* (4 children) I'm not really a metal head and I'd never heard of Possessed / Seven Churches so I found it and gave it a listen. My honest opinion is...meh. Musically it's an interesting track, arguably better than some Iron Maiden songs, but the vocals are the same muddy mess that ruins so many other metal bands. If you listen to Seven Churches and then immediately play "Aces High" or "Run to the Hills" you will hear exactly what I'm talking about. It boils down to this; Jeff Becerra seems to love being buried in the music so he can growl out undecipherable lyrics while Bruce Dickinson is conveying at least as much vocal power while standing out from the music and being clear enough that you can hear the message. It's just my opinion of course and honestly this is the same problem I've had with nearly every American Death Metal band. I don't know why most of them even bother having a vocalist as they are functionally useless. Rock out to whatever moves ya' but I definitely wouldn't rank Possessed ahead of Iron Maiden. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Click the link first. spoilerI haven't actually listened to possessed, so I can't comment. I just liked that guy's statement of "I like stuff heavier than maiden" and it made me think of the Luc Lemay interview. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Folk metal folk metal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ahh folk metal, that can be a fun genre of music! The one you linked isn't too bad but if you like it a bit...eastern...you may want to check out "The HU". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world [S] 2 points 1 year ago I like The Hu, though Hanggai and Nine Treasures are my true loves. But I picked Arkona specifically because the lead singer uses the ol' death metal growl to very good effect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vala@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago Funk, Blues, R&B, Reggae, Bebop, Swing... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children) Techno came from black kids on Detroit listening to Kraftwerk and then exporting that sound back to Germany permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They lived in Belleville, but no one knows where that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I do, it's in long island. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) They lived in Belleville, but no one knows where that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I do, it's in long island. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 year ago I do, it's in long island. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children) Punk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) The band known as "death" https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL71xICgSKYzlEYreXb96htKm8sacZIa-0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) The band known as "death" https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL71xICgSKYzlEYreXb96htKm8sacZIa-0 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago I don't necessarily agree that they "invented" punk but Bad Brains definitely invented hardcore. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago I was at the Magic Stick show in Detroit for the doc. I used to live down the street. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) is this a meme about race, or a racist meme? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) About race fetishism and commercial exploitation, I believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago by only white people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 child) About race fetishism and commercial exploitation, I believe permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago by only white people permalink fedilink source parent