Wow, if you search for signal messenger on DuckDuckGo using Chrome, the actual @signalapp web site is the third entry following ads for “Signal Private Messenger – Free Download” that leads to the site appmaus.com and “Get Signal Messenger | Install Signal App” that leads to the site filelocations.com.DuckDuckGo should be held criminally liable for anyone who ends up downloading malware because of this.CC @Mer__edith #DuckDuckGo #Signal #adtech #teachingPeopleHowToGetPhished #malware #security #privacy #BigTech

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[–] 2 points 11 months ago

@aral @signalapp @Mer__edith Yes, something’s not right over at DDG. I was trying to find a small regional hobby store website and even though I typed in the exact name, I got multiple lines of ads then multiple lines of unrelated big corporate stores. The one that I was looking for was at the very bottom of the page.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith This is what is shown on the Startpage search engine when one searches for Signal. But be aware that this Chromium-based browser, with additional privacy and security features, has a system-wide secure DNS filter. 💡 mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-h"all.dns.mullvad.net/dns-query"

    Startpage Signal search result.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @Mer__edith @signalapp @aral I think the time is long last when search engines and their ilk have to bear responsibility for some of the shit that happens. If they are making cash out of this then they can be held at least financially liable…

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith Wow. Tried this, different names same issue, not good.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @aral which search engine can I use now? Used DuckDuckGo for years… maybe 10 already

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  • [–] [B] 2 points 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edithI know people love to hate on Kagi, but, the first search result is signal.org, and the second result is the signal github page.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith the ads are not managed by DDG, but instead by Microsoft (Bing).You can disable ads in DDG settings, you don't even need an ad blocker.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith In Firefox everything seems OK..

    Duckduckgo.com search of "signal messenger"

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    @bzzzwa @signalapp @Mer__edith On Safari, I’m seeing one ad above the main site.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    @aral @bzzzwa @signalapp @Mer__edith I guess the problem is more the browser then DuckDuckGo

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    @RFancio @bzzzwa @signalapp @Mer__edith Well, no, the ads are DuckDuckGo’s. But there is definitely a difference between who is shown what depending on the browser.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @RFancio @bzzzwa @signalapp @Mer__edith Which signals does DDG use when selecting adverts? IP address? Current browser? The current search, obviously, sure. The user's language? It may explain why people are getting different results. (It's a DDG fault, of course, not related to a specific browser — unless one is using a browser with ad blocking, then no ad will ever appear)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith i would avoid using duckduckgo, it's one of those "privacy services" that are all fake and no make

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aralI see no ads in Iceraven (fork of Firefox for Android). @signalapp @Mer__edith

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith DDG in Android Firefox, UK, safe search, no AI then my first link is to https://signal org.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith Is this just for Signal or should I worry if want to use Duck Duck Go ?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith Switched over to Brave about two weeks ago. So far so good.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith An excellent reminder that an effective ad blocker is as important as effective AV software (if not more so)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral It's because of how Chromium works compared to Firefox. This is why EVERYONE should ditch Chrome and Chromium-base ASAP.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith this is why blocking ads is so important.Also using a search engine not financed by ads could help

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  • @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith It's okay on Vivaldi.

    Screenshot of DuckDuckGo using the Vivaldi browser - showing the official Signal page as the first search result when searching for "Signal messenger".

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral on @kagihq , it is, in order, signal home page, signal on the play store, signal page on Wikipedia

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral Have you heard the good word about Ecosia? No search result ads. @signalapp @Mer__edith

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith not so from the ddg app though. Strange 🤔

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith Search for Signal in Apple’s App Store and the first result is BiGO-Live Stream, Go Live.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    @aral @signalapp @Mer__edith fwiw ddg sources much of its index from Bing: duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help

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