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[–] 29 points 11 months ago (1 child)

A local economics podcast gave me an interesting point, which was that post covid Australia had one of the better unemployment rates, and it 100% came down to government funding jobs in the care sector. Now I do understand some of those aged/disability care programs got ripped off (like NDIS), but the guests claimed that countries relying on private sector jobs to bounce back basically have worse numbers. Food for thought in the role of government intervention in markets

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    The NDIS scam claims are far overstated from what I understand speaking to people in the system.

    The biggest scam recently was the payouts to businesses during Covid. Just to scratch the surface for example we paid $13bil to businesses that increased their profits during 2020-21 covid crisis, under the guise of Jobkeeper. I know many businesses that took payment despite knowing they had not had 30% downturn, because there were no clawback methods in the legislation. Free money from the taxpayer.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    In the 1970s, when the NZ Prime Minister Robert Muldoon was asked about the high numbers of New Zealanders leaving for Australia he replied:

    "It raises the IQ of both countries".

    Just brilliant!

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  • [–] 90 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    That’s what happens when morons vote in fascists.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    also the HCOL in Nz apparently.

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  • [+] -15 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    It's almost entirely the cost of living VS income, very little to do with politics.

    I don't know how to describe how stupid leaving NZ for Australia because of politics would be.

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  • [–] 43 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I don’t know how to describe how stupid leaving NZ for Australia because of politics would be.

    Uhh. NZ has a right wing government that is attacking trans people and Maori.

    Australia is run by a center party, that on the whole is making social strides for the positive.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    For now, sure. They change PMs like they change underwear over there.

    And they treat their indigenous people very poorly.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago*

    We don’t vote for PMs we vote for parties. And they change as frequently as in NZ.

    And my state recently signed an important treaty, meanwhile NZ is trying to alter its treaties and reneg on obligations.

    One is actively working to improve the lives of their indigenous, the other is trying to make it worse.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago

    And the current government are trying to do something about that

    NZ had always rested on its laurels about being a good society

    That is changing. Too many stupid, hateful cunts were happy to vote for Luxon

    I have whanau who voted for him, and I would be happy to never see them ever again

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Here are some raw official statistics: https://www.stats.govt.nz/information-releases/international-migration-july-2025/

    After having a look at the graphs: The data looks pretty normal and is within the previously observed boundaries.

    On a side note:

    1. +1 for the goverment website, other countries could learn from that
    2. Also nice to have non US news here for once
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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    there is no cause for alarm, noting that global workforce flows continue to bring skilled migrants into the country

    Hey USA, this is the time. Not next year, right. This. Minute.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I gladly welcome New Zealand into the third world.

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  • [+] -11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Something to remember when reading these headlines, is that Australia is a ridiculously wealthy country, in large part due to mineral wealth, and anyone in NZ can just go there and get a job.

    It has almost nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with making more money.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    If that's the case why is it record numbers now?

    Australia has had mineral wealth for a very long time, that's nothing new.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    New Zealand has had a constant outflow of people to other countries that ebbs and flows for at least 40 years. I left during a previous surge. Home prices are too high, wages are too low, and better opportunities can be found abroad. When other economies start slowing down, a lot of people return to NZ.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's fair, but that's due to politics.

    Wealth and quality of life are hugely dependent upon the politics of a place.

    Which form of politics is correct is a debate that has existed since forever, but there's no getting away from the fact that politics determines wealth, quality of life, and ultimately whether people wish to immigrate, emigrate, or stay put.

    Well, that and the weather 😝

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    It really isn't politics. New Zealand is very isolated from other countries, so the price of imported goods are high. It is also a small nation that is primarily farms, so there isn't much room for development and home prices are high. It has a small steel industry but otherwise there isn't a lot of manufacturing unless it is related to dairy.

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