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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That is what many "anti-colonial" gets wrong... they see it as a "white" vs "colored"; it is power against powerless. A carpenter in Slovenia does not have anything to do with colonialism in Africa, Americas or Asia, neither does a farmer in Salisbury or a fisherman in Bilbao... but their white vs colored argument is gold for the architects of colonialism since it shovels that carpenter, farmer and fisherman toward the powers be just for the skin color. Let us remember that groups of people, before embarking in colonialism, did not have any problem abusing and killing the neighbor. Racial distinction only became far more prominent in recent history.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The living standard of a carpenter in Slovenia is directly built on the brutal exploitation of the Global South.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    That would be nice to debate, but I hardly see how that is possible. I see you posted that the EU does colonialism in Africa... The EU per se, only finances some NGOs that may have some hidden agenda but hardly substantial in those countries. The other EU's domain is to assign free trade agreements with the poorest countries, but I don't think it is conditional and hard to see as malicious. Now, the EU is clearly now exercising power well beyond its mandate and, what it is worse, for evil... Gosh, it is now even blatantly violitig it is own laws. What I do see exercising colonialism is by some member states, usually correlated with its own GDP and that they now shield themselves behind the EU flag.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I hear you Cowbee! I’ll be be reading that wiki page latter on today. But again, the regular European carpenter does not benefit from an “exploited” cheaper iron ore in the form of cheaper nails... Not even from cheaper wood, if anything, people will appreciate more wood and hire more carpenters to fix wood cabinets rather than dispose after being worn out... It is a complicated economy...Companies like Ikea do indeed benefit from exploitation, but not the Slovenian carpenter with a market with cheaper wood and cheaper nails.

    Now, you could go with that Ikea does benefit, so that those companies pay taxes that the carpenter will ultimately benefit from... I could see that, but, again, we know that these large corporation do not pay their fair taxes, let alone, compensate for the negative externalities they create, so i do see no net benefit to the average EU citizen on the exploitation their countries participate on.

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    I have to disagree here. The carpenter would ultimately had a similar quality of life with empire or without... Life in the west would be very different for sure, but i would not qualify it as worse. Consumerism would be replaced by a far more sustainable lifestyle and we would have replaced our incentives based on GDP long ago, but does not mean less quality of life, just a more just one.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago

    Funnily enough the economies of all these countries are built on colonial exploitation of the Global South. All of them rely on cheap production in countries dominated by the west. Their economies are not self sufficient.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (32 children)

    putting an eu flag on this feels anachronistic

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    The EU is literally doing colonialism in Africa today.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    modern european colonialism doesn't have much to do with god or promised land anymore, and even then a british or a french flag would be more appropriate imo

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    and there are still many eu member states that can hardly be accused of directly engaging in modern colonialism, I'm simply saying we shouldn't lump them all together

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is a conversation about history. It doesn’t include modern member states because they were not member states when the modern European colonization of Africa first occurred.

    therefore,

    EU flag doesn't fit here because it's a symbol that's used nowadays to represent 27 countries, not just colonisers. that's why I initially said it was anachronistic

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    What makes up the majority of the nationalities of the settler-colonialists in occupied Palestine, and how much money + from which continent (aside from North America) goes into the settler-colonial entity?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Brits and the French are just the most well known colonialists. Meanwhile, modern european colonialism is a direct extension of the promised land colonialism. The EU flag is just a convenient way to indicate Europe as a whole.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    so… not the British? Because they’re not EU

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    You mean Russia and Wagner? Cause Russia ain't actually part of the EU

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  • [+] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (17 children)
  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    So I guess you just ran out of space if you left out the stupid shit Russia is pulling in Africa, right?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Oh yes, it's so terrible how Russia is helping countries like Niger and Burkina Faso shake off western colonialism. Cry harder.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There it is. When Russia does it, it's helping, but when Western countries do it, it's colonialism. God I hope you're at least being well paid for your doublethink

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago

    Feel free to provide examples of Russian colonialism in Africa. Last I checked, these kinds of things are happening, where Niger is NATIONALIZING their resources. If Russia was doing what the west was doing, then Niger would have a Russian puppet for a president who'd be selling the country off to Russian corps.

    https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/06/23/niger-to-nationalize-uranium-to-wrest-control-over-its-resource-from-france/

    Either you're utterly clueless, or intentionally trying to create a false equivalence to whitewash western crimes against humanity. Either way, you're a slimy colonizer apologist.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Lol Russia can't even help themselves

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Can't help themselves is an interesting euphemism for defeating all of NATO in Ukraine.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Haha, you think Russia is winning?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago

    It's obvious to anybody who has even the bare minimum of understanding of what's happening in Ukraine. Don't take my word for it though. Here's what Lt. Col. Alex Vershinin retired after twenty years of service, including eight years as an armor officer with four combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and twelve years as a modeling and simulations officer in NATO and U.S. Army, working on concept development and experimentation has to say on the subject:

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    that's the special operation that was supposed to last a couple days a few years ago, right? I haven't been paying attention. Poopoo still hasn't made any progress, has he? Weakling

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do feel free to show a single official statement from Russia to that effect. The fact that you haven't been paying attention is very obvious. Let's just see what people with a clue have to say on the subject. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/coalition-of-the-willing-ukraine/

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Nah, you feel free to try to prove me wrong, but you can't, because you're backing a weakling lol

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Literally linked you a NATO military expert proving you wrong, but I guess your reading comprehension isn't so good.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol try again, you can only link to official NATO government sources if you want to be taken seriously

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why would I care if some ignoramus on the internet takes me seriously?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This God guy kinda sounds like a dickhead

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    18th century EU

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago

    I think this meme is a bit of an oversimplification. Every colonialism was bad, but each had a very different kind of exploitation, incitement and violence. It's important to look at history carefully so as not to repeat it.

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