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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Are these products available in states without legal marijuana? Just confused as to what this really affects, as THC is already illegal federally. Are states with legal weed suddenly not going to sell gummies? Seems unlikely, as they're already violating the federal law just selling weed to begin with.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Hemp derived THC was unintentionally made legal in a 2018 farm bill. These products have been available pretty much nationwide since then.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    And/or under a certain content percentage I think. Laws were set for flower and oil concentrate but didn't account for making 12oz drinks that contain part of a joint

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    The limits were on the plants themselves, I believe something like >3% THC, but companies were then able to concentrate the THC and sell it legally. Even in places like ND where I have family and weed is completely illegal, you can buy these delta 9 products.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yes, they are. This is because the THC that's federally illegal is a specific form of THC: ∆9 THC.

    But there are several different forms of THC along with other psychoactive cannabinoids (∆8, THCp, CBG, HHC, CBC, CBN) that were made legal with the 2018 farm bill that legalized hemp derived products. States have been restricting them, but not the feds until now.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I tried a bunch of these but I couldn't quite feel like good old mj

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yes, depending on your state you can walk into pretty much any "grass station" (a non major chain) and see an array of products, delta 9 is not usually allowed in these states or requires a medical card but there're close to 300 cannabinoids IIRC while some may be more/less effective, or have no effect at all these products really shouldn't be sold ATM, there is very little regulation or testing and it's really up to the consumer to decide if they can trust the brand/lab results, then you have shady stores repacking/refilling, counterfeiting, and selling underage. Now we could pass some common sense legislation and have everything regulated by the FDA/ABC or whatever.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Please include the country this applies to in the title. Otherwise I have to click the link to be able to see that this post isn't interesting to me at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    The link shows only

    abcnews.go.com

    You could still change the title btw.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ABC is also the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, so that’s not a sure fire way to know.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If if was that one then it would have the .au TLD if we're looking at the link so we can tell just by looking at the link its not the Australian one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure, if you already know that, that’s a valid way to tell them apart.

    But if you don’t, it’s not necessarily obvious.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Why is it that you US Americans are so dense in being the main character. Just write USA in the header for a post in an international news channel. Like - you know - every other country in the world. You must agree that this would be the most civil solution or not?

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Fucking Epstein Class cowards hiding this shit.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The ONLY silver lining is that maybe some states will allow it, like CO and CA on actual weed. And that will encourage them to just make the real stuff legal too.

    It's been 7 years and the world wasn't destroyed by weed addicts.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Since the legalization in Germany in April, there has been nothing. No spiking crime rates, no spiking usage numbers, but still conservatives lose their shit Bavarian conservatives especially. You know, those conservatives who drink for tradition, not for fun.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    What do you have to do to move to Germany? Is it true thc drug testing in the workplace is less widespread in Germany than in the US? I know they're cracking down on immigration but I have good education. All I know is I'm sick and tired of living in the US where the Christian fundamentalists get their way in absolutely fucking everything.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    why would states w/ legal weed offer these shitty hemp based substitutes? honest query.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    They wouldn't, this change doesn't really effect them. I meant states could over rule the fed and keep it legal like CA or CO does with weed currently. And then since they took a stand with the shitty alternatives they might as well do it with weed too.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Didn't think I'd see the day where THC gummies are legal in France but not in the US... where they are made

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    To be clear, this proposition would ban hemp-derived THC. Gas stations and head shops shouldn’t be selling unregulated products like that anyway. Most of them are probably unfit for consumption.

    That said, as the article points out, this provision would have consequences beyond Delta-8 vape carts and the like. I think the correct approach is federal legalization.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    So the cannabis products sold in licensed dispensaries in NJ, for example, would be safe from this legislation?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    That’s correct. This proposition closes the loophole used to sell hemp-derived THC products, but it does not impact anything statutorily defined as “marijuana”. That’s still federally illegal but permitted on a per-state basis

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Yeah but thca flower is basically normal weed and most of the delta 9 thc gummies are good. They didn't have to all-out ban it. They could've made it illegal to sell to anyone under 21. But nope.

    Clearly the only way to protect the children is to make it all illegal again and put people in jail for possession. /s

    This is going to remove legal access to thc for basically half the us population. Now anyone that really wants it either has to try smuggling it across state lines from dispensaries or growing it. GOOD FUCKING LUCK with that thanks to all the goddamn Flock cameras they put up everywhere just to automatically catch people who go to dispensaries. They're making all hemp/cannabis seeds that can produce thc or thca flower illegal too. Now we can't grow our own anymore either. You know how it's literally fucking impossible to buy coca or opium seeds? You can't even get that shit on the dark net. Well cannabis seeds are going to become that impossible to get too. Why would the cartels let anyone have seeds when they can sell weed for $700/oz?

    The thc black market that arises from this is going to be full of nasty synthetics that make delta 8, hhc and all that other nasty bullshit look safe by comparison. I will not name which of these non-thc synthetic cannabinoids are easiest to produce but at least some of them won't show up on thc drug tests. All of the options besides making delta 8 from cbd (and cbd comes from hemp plants which will become illegal so its moot point) are significantly more complicated than methamphetamine production so whatever black market thc we do get is going to be really really bad.

    Fuck every single christo-fascist. Fuck every single corporation that lobbied for this just so they could have an easier time indiscriminately firing people over thc metabolites without collapsing due to staffing. I wish misfortune on them all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I agree. We need public executions. Either serve the people or don't serve at all. You serve yourself while in office and we live stream your head falling off

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Everyone who supports this needs to be sentenced to a medically induced alcohol hangover until they're begging for mercy. As in rot in prison while being forced to experience a 20 year long hangover. Executions are too generous and don't involve enough suffering. The punishment has to fit the crime.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    0.4 milligrams per container limit? I have to read the rest of the article, but come on.

    why not also take this logic into account for alcoholic beverages?

    I know why, but the hypocrisy is insane. oh well, what are ya gonna do

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