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Microsoft adds Steam games to its Xbox PC app on Windows (www.theverge.com)
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[–] 16 points 1 year ago

This cross integration needs to exist in for Windows handhelds to have a chance to succeed, most people buy games from Steam after all.

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Theyre way behind the power curve with this one. GOG has had better multi-store integration for a while. I am surprised that steam is even lacking on this.

    Microsoft needs to make it so i never need to go into the steam app or the GOG app, and so i never want to, to play all my games. Thats the way to win and become number 1.

    Really if Play anywhere expands retroactively like 360 backwards compatibility did... They will have another great PR boom that brings users like myself back to their storefronts.

    I have to stop holding my breath for the xbox console library to gain cross compatibility though. Theres no way the Play anywhere program comes close to compensating for all of the classics locked to their consoles. If cross compatibility never happens i will feel slighted as a previous xbox user with a huge library of games.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Microsoft needs to make it so i never need to go into the steam app or the GOG app

    That's never going to happen with any store. Not Microsoft, not Steam, not Epic, not GOG. GOG games could be added anywhere, since they're not tied to a launcher.

    Either start pirating everything or "hope" one store on PC gets a real monopoly, so it's the only one to buy from.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I think Microsoft is too big to make sensible and timely changes. The company needs to be broken up. Windows, Office, Azure, Xbox, Bing, all need to be separate companies with their individual sustainable business plans, or else let free market decide their fate. Same for Apple and Google.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    I am surprised that steam is even lacking on this.

    This is an „underdog” feature - if you own the market like Steam does it could only ever harm sales on their platform. Some people don’t seem to be bothered by the grip Valve has on the market however. Not like Microsoft wouldn’t do that either if they were in the same position because both are ultimately out there to make as much money as possible.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Steam has the grip it has because nobody else is even trying to compete with them on like terms. Steam doesn’t engage in anti-competitive behavior and even shares their technology with competitors freely. They are successful because they continue to give consumers and sellers what they want, as opposed to engaging in unethical behavior like Microsoft, Epic, and major publishers do.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Are you saying that if there was another store that you could move all your games to, with 10% cut, 10% discount for you and 10% discount for the developer you wouldn’t use it because Steam is so good? Take a look at your games library and imagine 20% of what you paid not going to Valve. Do they really provide good value for that money?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Publishers have their own storefronts and… surprise, not a single one charges 30%, 20%, or even 10% less due to avoiding the Steam tax.

    And yes, I frequently am willing to pay slightly more to keep things in Steam. It means easier Steam Deck access, family sharing, Steam Link, and other benefits that I would miss out on via other platforms, even if they were cheaper (which we established was not the case).

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    For me that comes up to a couple hundred euros, definitely not seeing where that goes.

    Someone said here that Valve doesn’t chase profit at all cost because they’re a private company. We’re talking about pioneers of enshittification though, look what they’ve done to CS, Team Fortress 2 or Dota 2. They turned both into casinos for children, breaking cohesion and balance, just to chase the profits. Do you think those people run Steam ethically or with your interest in mind? Other companies would be crucified for anything similar but Valve gets away somehow.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    None of those are games for children. Nor are they similar to casinos. Are you trying to argue that selling cosmetics in games is inherently unethical?

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Selling cosmetics via loot boxes is gambling. They market their video games to children (all rated 13+). Way to twist what I’ve said lol. Goodbye, I’m blocking all Valve shills for sanity lately.

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    • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Had issues with this type of integration with ubisoft connect and division 2. Had to reinstall the whole game again...

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    It's kind of satisfying to see Valve and SteamOS out so much pressure on Microsoft.

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I hope you can disable this, or at least hide the games from Steam, because the Xbox App is fucking awful and I'd much rather it show its own, so I don't have to look for them.

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