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[–] 87 points 1 year ago

Cops: Oh okay, carry on then.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Shoot him, anyway.

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  • Yes, you follow fascist assholes carrying out fascist shit in your town. Who does he think pays him?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also, what a joke that the officer basically shrugged and said he couldn't help if no crime had occurred.

    So I definitely get where you get that impression but what the article says is (emphasis mine)

    After the agent identified himself, the officer told him “he could not assist with someone following or recording him if no crime had occurred, and that local law enforcement was en route.”

    Which to me kind of sounds like cop-ese for "She's allowed to follow and record you if she wants, so how 'bout you fuck off before we cause an even bigger scene?"

    Now would it have been nice if the cop had arrested the nazi for brandishing or something? Sure, but you're living in a fantasy land if you think that would have gone anywhere. I'm pretty sure any half-decent lawyer in the country could have gotten those charges thrown out because a "law enforcement" officer drawing their gun when they feel threatened while on an "operation" isn't exactly illegal. And the arresting cop probably would have just found himself in hot water for interfering with the "operation"

    And it was a Fullerton officer but the incident occurred in Santa Ana, so there may have been jurisdiction issues where he legally couldn't have done much beyond what he did since he was out of his jurisdiction. Honestly a lot of cops probably would have said "not by town, not my problem" and kept driving.

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    [–] 176 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    The officer should have arrested the ICE agent for brandishing their weapon.

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  • [–] 90 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Cops arresting cops, that’s a good one.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    How many good cops does it take to change a light bulb?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I dunno, they were too busy beating the room for being black.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    The officer that let the ICE agent go should be arrested pursuant to CA penal code section 142, refusal to execute duties as obligated by the state.

    You don't get "discretion" when the criminal in question is waving around lethal force for no reason. Failure to act is complicit behavior.

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If the first dead ICE agent was due to local police shooting them, that would be great. Will make it harder for MAGA people to create a fake story about violent gang members killing them. (Yes cops are technically violent gang members i know...)

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    MAGA would just spin the local cop as an Antifa. You know they do demonization as a science, at this point. It doesn't have to be true, it just has to be plausible enough for Fox News viewers.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    If a masked or non-uniformed man points a gun at me, I'm playing it cool for 3-seconds while I prepare to shoot back. I no longer leave the house unarmed, and that makes me fucking sick.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You're going to give them a whole three seconds?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's going to take 3 seconds to get my weapon unsafed and into play. If I see it coming, different story.

    These guys are brandishing, intending to intimidate, not opening fire. So yeah, I got 3 seconds to spare.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cox_(police_officer)

    As a plainclothes officer, Cox was mistaken for a suspect and briefly beaten while still in training, and was once purposefully hit by a police vehicle and pinned to a wall. He recovered quickly both of these times and decided not to file complaints.

    In 1995, while Cox was working in plainclothes, his car was at the front of a high-speed chase in pursuit of gang members suspected of homicide. The chase involved several cars from the BPD and other departments. Cox continued the chase on foot, but was again mistaken by other officers for a suspect. He was badly beaten by four officers and hospitalized, suffering a serious brain injury. After the officers realized his actual identity (upon one officer noticing the police badge under Cox's jacket), they quickly abandoned him to bleed on the sidewalk. It took Cox six months to recover from many of the physical injuries he incurred.

    Cox learned only from newspaper reports that the other officers had failed to report the incident. He has recounted having become upset at efforts by the other officers to hide what had occurred. He began receiving harassing phone calls from other officers even before he had decided whether he would file a complaint. For the next four years, Cox sought acknowledgement of what had taken place, hoping for, at the very least, an apology. In pursuit of this, he ultimately brought a lawsuit against BPD for the incident, which broke years of internal silence within the department on such misconduct, defying what was considered a "blue wall of silence." While seeking to receive some justice for his beating, Cox was rendered a social pariah within the department, and faced threats and harassment from others in the department.

    TLDR: undercover cop got beaten by uniformed cops... same could happen to random armed masked men.

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