Who would need to press the power button to actually turn off or restart the device, right?

The setting to change this is also pretty much buried under Settings -> Special Features -> Gestures.

(Yes, I have no idea why the Assistant is in German when the phone is set to English either 🫠)

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[–] 133 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

I hope everyone who works for google gets turned into tadpoles by a witch

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  • [–] 97 points 1 year ago

    It was annoying having to change that setting so I could shut down the phone and install GrapheneOS.

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Maybe Google is learning from Samsung how they bind Bixby to the power button.

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Just one big incestuous sewer orgy of anti-consumer practices!

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I heard Google sent out emails to outlook customers suggesting they switch to Gmail when azure went down last week. A tongue in cheek response to edge asking folks to leave chrome.

    This timeline blows.

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  • [+] -28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

    How is this anti consumer? Just because you don't like a thing doesn't make it anti consumer.

    Edited to add, everyone hated that.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You don't think replacing the single most universal function of an electronic device with their ad delivering spyware is anti-consumer? Fuck bud, what would you consider anti-consumer?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    replacing the single most universal function

    For quite some time now, Apple and Samsung have had the shutdown menu behind a multi-button press (Lock + Vol +/-). In Apple’s case, it’s always required more than just the lock button.

    If anything, this is Google shifting to the β€˜norm’, having multiple button presses be the default is ideal in preventing accidentally invoking the menu and shutting down the device.

    Far as β€œanti consumer” is concerned:

    ad delivering spyware

    Relative to most consumers, this perspective has you in the minority. Your average consumer is going to engage with this feature, this change makes the feature as accessible as possible so that you can do something like send a text with a single hand / button press.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I have a first gen iPod Touch somewhere in a box here. It was press once to lock and turn off screen. Hold to get power menu.

    Fucking hell, Samsung? I'm typing this on a Galaxy A52 5g. Same thing. Press power to turn off the screen and lock, press and hold for power menu. They did have press and hold for bixby about a year after I bought it, which I disabled, but it wasn't out of box default.

    I've never encountered this multi-button power shit you're talking about outside of old click wheel iPods, or as the force shut down option (equivalent of ripping out the cord on a desktop PC, definitively not the normal/intended power off procedure).

    Don't know what you've been using, but this has not been some standard thing forever.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Find me a consumer that likes it and perhaps I'll reconsider

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There are people commenting on this very thread that they use the button for things other than power, and I know a few people in my personal life which is a pretty small sample size that use the assistants on that button.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Does that justify changing its function without announcing it first? Because i had to Google how to turn off my god damn phone when it first happened to me, lol

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not about like or dislike. I'd have almost no complaints if they added a button or a unique gesture to open it, like they already had with holding the home button (looks like they may have removed that shortcut functionality). Or how some phones made the lock/power button touch sensitive so a touch (not press) or a swipe over it opened the assistant.

    But silently changing the function of a standard piece of UI/controls that have been standard for over a decade, and common on even slide phones since the fucking pre-smart phone era?

    I'm shocked that anyone actually needs this explained to them.

    It would rightfully be a news story if Honda's newest car hid the window controls behind a settings menu, and what normally were window controls (still visually the exact same and located in the standard spot on the door) raised and lowered your seat instead.

    That's all without getting into the mess that is a company trying to artificially pump user numbers of one of their products, or my personal dislike of these "assistants".

    Internal emails from Google have become public through court cases which reveal that the rumor they were making search worse intentionally is true, and it was in order to inflate their ad impression numbers. There is no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt on this, and active explicit reasons to do the opposite.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Was it a silent change? No mention in update notes or any marketing material? I truthfully don't know, as I don't have a phone affected by this.

    Also, not meaning to come off as defending Google. I'm not. I know they don't need me to defend them.

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  • I don't think "update notes or any marketing material" qualifies for making this kind of change non-silent - if the update is pushed through the same channel as regular security updates, and doesn't explicitly notify the user the behavior of the button has changed, that's pretty silent.

    Often for those kinds of updates software will show a special introduction screen, tutorial, or outright a prompt asking you to choose between the new and old behavior - but that's software from people that care about the user having a good experience, and making such changes is a big deal for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well luckily you can change this on Samsung phones. I'm assuming phones with the default bound to Google Assistant will be similar. Annoying and stupid, for sure, but at least you're not locked in. I'm sure a lot of the general population won't have the basic know-how to change it though, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Another in a long line of messing with user interface things on updates, without any prior warning to the user. And if you even get a changelog at all on the update prompt it's always just vague bullshit like, "Bug fixes and usability improvements," without explaining what those "improvements" are supposed to be.

    In unrelated news, the last major update on my Moto G changed the incoming call screen from swipe up to answer, swipe down to reject to swipe left to answer, swipe right to reject. What is this, fucking Tinder now? And don't come at me about the "gesture" setting in the dialer app options, either. Yes, I am aware of it. The only options listed there are now "horizontal swipe" and "single tap to answer." Why any rational individual would want to inflict the hell that is the latter option on themselves is unknown to me.

    This kind of horseshit is why boomers and old people are terrified of updates and drive us IT nerds up the wall by perpetually ignoring and dismissing them. Because when you change the user interface choices people are used to behind their backs and without warning, as far as they're concerned you just broke their device.

    Cut it out.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Android is getting really terrible in general, whoever they have designing the UI is not good at their jobs. The thing I hate the most is now you have to open the side menu to open your contacts in the contacts app. It's so annoying. Add several seconds to every instance of making a call.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    The best explanation I saw several years ago: Large tech companies drive change through competing individual teams and projects. So some manager pitched a half-assed idea, somehow convinced upper management to go with it, got developers to heroically implement it, and might have gotten some bonus for doing so. It doesn't matter if there was no value as long as some decision maker thinks there is (or does not care, or numbers were fudged anyway).

    It is literally change for the sake of change.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Samsung just improved my user experience by removing "silent" from the available options when pressing the volume down button for notifications/ringer β€” now I need to open a menu to press a touchscreen button a couple times, instead of being able to quickly set my phone to silent through tactile feel without looking.

    thank you so much for improving my user experience for me, Samsung, this is really what I've been missing for the past decade

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Came default on pixel for me. Also can't remove or move the Google search bar.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's a PC program called Android Debloat, gives you a list of apps on your Android with comprehensive information about what they do, and you can blitz the shit off your phone. Tip 1: Always install a keyboard before removing Gboard. Tip 2: Removing the Google app that forces the search widget also removes Gemini usability, the news sidebar, and others. I know - what a loss

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Not just new installations. It also happened on my phone when Android was updated. Thanks OP for also posting where to fix this!

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    I noticed that and also noticed how they swapped out the assistant for for Gemini AI bullshit that doesn't work right so you can't tell it to turn on a light or generally to do anything and have it actually do it correctly.

    Every time my phone gets an update I have to go and switch that shit back. I honestly believe they're trying to get me to buy a Linux phone.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago*

    Going full in on the anticompetitive bullshit now? But why? Does Google have a deal with the orange Nazi against EU or what?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Technically it opens your default assistant. Mine is set to Dicio, so it opens that. Also, it wasn't default for me, but just an option I found while exploring settings.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    I've changed it to launch Firefox and double press to turn on/off flashlight. I have a Samsung phone

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    How do you turn off your phone then?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    On Samsung phones, you can turn off your phone via the notification bar drop down.

    That being said, I still prefer to have my power button bound to...well...power options lol.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I don't use the features you listed that much, so I switched it back to powering off my phone. On my Samsung device, there was a link titled how do I turn off my phone. One of the options suggested was saying, "Bixby, turn off my phone." Nope.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    On my S25U you just hold down the down volume button and the power button at the same time. That's how it came for me stick our of the box, have not touched it. I did set my power button to be one long press for my wallet app instead of Gemini tho

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Does that actually bring up a menu, or just outright shut it down?

    The two button shortcut has historically been for forcing an immediate shutdown in the event of like, a full system freeze. It's the same as ripping the power cord from a running desktop PC, and isn't the intended graceful shutdown that these devices are supposed to get.

    Unless they've changed things, that's been the standard since the first smart phones and PDAs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know what everyone's on about. I'm pretty sure this is explained in the first launch tutorial. You press power and volume up at the same time.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I don't remember the first launch tutorial because 2 reasons.

    1. It was 2 years ago.
    2. I know how to use a fucking phone. The cunts changing a function that literally every phone up to that point had implemented the same way is not my damn fault.
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If only they could break the bastard Bixby button instead.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I loved how at first, I was able to rebind that stupid button to anything I wanted. Then that stopped and it became only Bixby. Horrible decision - Having a button that can launch any app you want is a beautiful thing that more phones need to get behind.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    why the Assistant is in German when the phone is set to English

    Because Google just has no idea how to deal with multilingual people. Google Assistant's ability to understand and respond to prompts that are in either of my languages is completely unpredictable, even for the language the UI is displaying in. Another issue is that you apparently just cannot in any way control what language call screen will use to talk to a caller. Such a good feature rendered entirely useless for me because of that.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Not just new ones. Last month my mom asked for help because she could no longer turn off her phone. I checked the settings and the power button had been assigned to the assistant.

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    Same. On my stock Pixel it defaulted to hold the power button for assist. Which I immediately disabled and never looked back.

    This was coupled with the power menu being added as a button to the notification shade.

    I imagine it was in response to Apple when they switched to having the Siri button.

    On the Nothing Phones is it just a press?

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  • Since when is pressing a button a gesture.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How do you people lock your phone if not by pushing the power button? You just put it in your pocket like that?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    it's press and hold. Just pressing locks it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Oh, you can change that? I thought this was just how it is now.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It just asked me what it should do when I press the power button. Pretty painless, 🀷. End of the day it's just another win for GrapheneOS though.

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  • Next step of their Always On (always spying) wet dream.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I turn off my phone every night, so I changed that back as soon as I found out.

    They also messed with the navigation bar... Before, instead of having three buttons, you could have it display three lines at the bottom that you used by swiping upward. They did away with that, so now your only options are 1) the three regular buttons that are too easy to accidentally press and take up too much screen real estate, or 2) one line that is harder to use combined with a back functionality enabled by swiping from the left ir right sides of the screen. It's not only slower to use than the three lines, but it also results in accidentally going back when trying to scroll horizontally.

    They could have left an option to keep the three lines, but no, they love reminding us we don't really own the devices we pay for >:|

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If Samsung, install Good Lock and use the Navstar plugin to bring the functionality back.

    That's what I did.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Just hit it today when setting up my brother's phone. It is so stupid to do it this way.

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    Yes took me a while to figure this out. Was months ago after an update.

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  • Thanks.

    On xiaomi, search for "gesture shortcut" in the settings menu to get to the right option menu.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yup.

    It's annoying.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That was a feature two years ago I thought, long press for the "assistant". I switched to grapheneos as soon as I got a pixel so I don't follow Google's actual releases

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    i turned it off and set it to a swipe from the bottom corners of the screen, which makes a lot more sense

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    Hi! I discovered this today and got so angry I threw my phone at a door and put a hole in it :) I hate the future~ :3

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I own an nothing phone too, and I had the same thing. Same thing had my dads phone, Samsung device. Everyone is doing it, it's not just nothing.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To be honest I like this behavior. I haven't enabled the hot word, so this is a really convenient way to launch the assistant. (It doesn't has to be the google assistant btw)

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