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[–] 122 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Like most signs, this will be ignored by the people it's intended for.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The point of the sign is to avoid them getting angry when you throw them out. They will, but others in the store will back you up.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's just not how interacting with humans works though.

    Chances are there are several individuals who visit this shop with "offensive" hygiene.

    The sign isn't going to stop them coming in.

    When you say "hey fuck off stinky", they're going to react badly. Pointing to the sign isn't going to make them any less reactive or defensive.

    The correct way to handle this is to pull them aside, tell them you really appreciate them visiting the store, they're really into the hobby and a key part of the local scene or whatever, but last time they came in a few other customers mentioned their hygiene.

    I totally understand that most people don't want to have that second interaction, that's fine.

    My point is, in either approach the sign doesn't help.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When you go to cons you always see these guys who are clearly spending mad cash, but they’re in a ratty t shirt and sweat pants, and they smell like unwashed ass covered in baby powder. You can play magic for 10 hours but you can’t go take a 15 minute shower???

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago*

    "Hey, Skinx, yer on Door Sniffing Duty tonight."

    "Aw, I always get Door Sniffing Duty, make Plug do it, he never does it."

    "Plug has allergies, he can't smell so good. You got a good nose."

    "You don't need a good nose for these dudes. You can smell Fat Tony from a block away."

    "Speaking of, it's Wednesday."

    "Wednesday? OH! Fat Tony always comes in on Wednesday!"

    "Yep, you'll be getting a schnozzful of Fat Tony's unique gamey fragrance, before you send him home for his shower. Get at it!"

    "Fuck..."

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (35 children)

    From my reading of social media there are two kinds of neurodivergents: 1) hates showering, most unpleasant experience, sensory overload 2) loves showering, could live in the shower, sometimes exits the shower and realises that they forgot to wash their hair or soap up or something. Only misses their daily shower when they are very busy and can't find an hour in their schedules.

    You may be a neurotypical if you:

    • shower each day
    • complete your shower in less than 10 minutes
    • don't forget any of the 1-3 things you are supposed to do in the shower
    • have no strong feelings about showering
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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I've been known to shower until the hot water runs out. I've been known to fall asleep in the shower. I love showers.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Sleeping in the shower! Do you then wake up when you start gurgling?

    If you want a good night's sleep in the shower then get one of those continuous water heaters, or a recirculation shower to save on the water and energy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I'm suddenly buying a house in extreme need of repairs (including the bathroom), so I'll look into it, thanks!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    But what if you piss in the shower? Or worse ...

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It goes on at length about how the myriad filters remove everything. I hadn't thought about that, but I don't think it would clean the water THAT good.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If it's reverse osmosis literally only water can pass through.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Can you imagine how much pressure the shower would have to generate to get enough flow through a single or even multiple RO filters to be able to recirculate the same shower water. It's not going to be RO, 5 micron pre-filter and some type of carbon filter. A glorified Brita shower.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think there's two ways to do that.

    1. A simple heat exchanger from the drain to the cold water running to the shower. A thermostat on the shower reduces the amount of hot water you use as the cold water gets warmer.
    2. Recovering water from the drain to go into the shower again, probably via reverse osmosis.

    Second option requires maintenance and a bunch of engineering. Unless there's a massive lack of water where you live and you have lots of money.

    First option... Well, it requires more piping and that the drain pipe is a heat exchanging pipe - a pipe within a pipe where the cold water is in the outermost pipe, running in the opposite direction of the drain water. I'm not sure how much heat you would recover. The floor of the shower might need to be a bit higher than otherwise. And if you have hard water then I wouldn't do it. When you heat cold, hard water the calcium carbonate precipitates and you get limescale. To avoid reducing heat exchange efficiency and avoid clogs you would have to descale regularly and it's just not very accessible. With normal descaling you can remove a lot mechanically but here it would have to be all chemical. And how would you even get the descaler into those pipes?

    Tl;dr don't do option 1, only do option 2 if you have very soft water.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    A simple heat exchanger from the drain to the cold water running to the shower.

    This is very much a thing! Here's a DOE explainer page and here's a Home Depot listing

    I think the usual way these are installed is they go in the basement with the drain portion going between the sewers and the house's various drains and the fresh water portion going before the water heater to pre-heat the ground-temperature water before it enters the tank (although the DOE's diagram indicates it pre-heats all fresh water entering the house, thereby also warming the cold water, which is probably great for showering, but not when getting a glass of cold water while the dishwasher or clothes washer are running)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I've thought that if I were heavily renovating or building I'd want to strongly consider putting a tankless waterheater just for the shower. Main water heater does its job but can be set to a good handwashing temp but the shower never runs out of hot and is set hot enough for both myself and my wife.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I don’t know how much neurodivergence factors into it, though Im sure it does. Plenty of these sort of people think they only need to shower once every week or two because they don’t smell and usually insist they have “good hygiene” despite that. Some just straight up can’t be bothered. Both types tend to not have very many friends; who would ideally inform them that they stink.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I had a boyfriend that HAD to shower everytime he pooped. He couldn't poop anywhere he wouldn't be able to shower or he would be annoying until we got home. He also had IBS. Lovely time I had

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You should've bought that boy a bidet. That's probably what he wanted.

    Rather than shit steam your bathroom

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Oh no. We had a bidet shower (bum gun), he just wouldn't use. He said it didn't felt clean enough. He wasn't a germophobe but I guess he couldn't handle poop lol. At lease he wasn't one of those "real men don't clean" gang

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    10 minutes

    How do you wash in that time? That’s just enough to get wet.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    5 minutes baby. Military taught me to eat fast, shower fast, fall asleep fast, and clean like i have OCD

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I should have gone to the military, like I wanted to. When I finished school, I wanted to serve to learn discipline, order, and structure. My parents are both strict pacifists and had dragged me to peace protests from a young age. I didn’t want to break their heart, so an undisciplined civilian life it was. Still lacking discipline, order, and difficulty sleeping.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Army takes up to 36, and they're decently disciplined. May have missed the boat on Marines though, and that's where the true brainwashing occurs, in my opinion. And I don't mean brainwashing making you want to kill and love war, I'm not fond of either, less so after than before. But structure is a very real thing, and developing good habits.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I shower in less than 10:

    • Heat water while I undress
    • Change water to cold, wet my hair only (dyed hair is a pain, god bless it's short)
    • Shampoo hair, Clear, apply conditioner
    • Change water to hot again, wet rest of body
    • Stop water, apply gel in body
    • Hot water, rinse body
    • Cold water, rinse head
    • Get out.

    That's like 8 mins, maybe 9 because I spend 2 with my hair, maybe 10 because I spend 2 mins wetting my body to heat it up.

    Ofc, if I'm feeling cold I end up spending way longer in the wet body phase.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Nah cause I'm both of those. I want nothing to do with a shower until I get in and then I'll stay there until I run through 50 gallons of near boiling water. And then as the water starts turning cold I realize I haven't even washed yet.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    In the mid 90's I was with a group of union apprentices attending the mandatory four week training at our headquarters in the Midwest. They put us up at a decent hotel in the downtown area. During our stay one year they had some kind of fantasy con. Many of these people were foul smelling. They were not used to being told they couldn't enter the elevator without getting fucked up. Some of my fellow apprentices were how shall we say it. Impulsively violent toward people who smelled like unwashed ass. After all nearly everyone of us would shower once or twice daily due to the job. The con attendees quickly learned how to use the back elevator away from our floor.

    It was really kinda sad but the Navy also had a floor for their recruits to stay at while they were being processed in. Many were young women all of legal age with the navy personnel trying but not always succeeding in keeping those ladies away from forty or so young construction workers. One of their main tactics was to encourage the navy recruits to use the back elevator. In forcing those unwashed losers to the back we inflicted them on those recruits.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    I get it, personal hygiene isn't always a big priority for us nerdy types. But it's reaaaally not hard to do the bare minimum to keep from stinking, guys. Have some consideration for others when emerging from your cave.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I’ve spent too much time in unventilated back rooms for Magic tournaments. It was musty.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is my favorite thing to show people when they never ask.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Amazing? I have seen that sign at pretty much every games workshop I have been too,

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes but do they actually enforce it is the biggest question. My game store most certainly does not.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    it may not be as frequent at your store? might happen at the most busy card game stores. i went by 2 just the other day, i dint stop to read if there was a sign, but it was practically empty inside, it was bustling before the pandemic, covid really screwed things up with this shops. Plus scalping also has pushed fans out of the game completely.

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