โฒ -21 โผ A video for those people who donโt understand why we support Palestine ๐ต๐ธ but NOT Ukraine. ๐บ๐ฆ (video.twimg.com) submitted 1 year ago by jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 6 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/37765549 Midwestern Marx | @MidwesternMarx A video for those people who donโt understand why we support Palestine ๐ต๐ธ but NOT Ukraine. ๐บ๐ฆ [Video: https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1977919488231092224/vid/avc1/576x1024/qKYTREWwqm5iU1SI.mp4] 7:09 PM | Oct 13, 2025 Screenshot: Source: https://x.com/MidwesternMarx/status/1977919588798026077
[โ] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (5 children) What a silly individual choosing his facts oh so non subtly. permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) The only fact they know about geopolitics is that the US is bad. They have extrapolated that to mean that everyone the US opposes must be good, which doesn't hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. The more coherent view is that invading is bad and you shouldn't do it, so Russia and Israel are both in the wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Did you watch the video... It seems you replied after just reading the title... I thought the video was simple and direct. All is well. Peace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago It mostly just boils down to the same "perfect victim" nonsense that also manifests as "but do you condemn Hamas?" Yes Ukraine does bad things. Very bad things. It was known as the most corrupt country in Europe, a title that has fierce competition. That still doesn't justify an invasion. And it isn't like Russia didn't invade before the 2014 coup; they actually invaded during the riots leading up to the coup, and seized territory that they still hold today (as Israel has done so many times to Palestine). They also aren't only looking out for ethnic Russians in the Donbas. The initial invasion planned to take Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. It turned out that the Russians significantly overestimated their capabilities and underestimated the amount of military hardware that Europe and the US were willing to offload on Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) The Fourth Branch^[[1] The 4th Branch - Immortal Technique | Lyrics (05:18 | Rap, New York Rap, Perรบ, East Coast Rap, Conscious Hip-Hop, Politics) | https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ffxUT7Puf0 | https://lemmy.world/post/36943977]. I think it has to do with propaganda and the continued political tribalism and divide-and-conquer of the working class and poor. The only difference is some believe they are immune or above its influence, while some try to take account of it and continue to learn from not only government and establishment sources but dissident views and independent journalists as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago what are you even yapping about? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children) The only fact they know about geopolitics is that the US is bad. They have extrapolated that to mean that everyone the US opposes must be good, which doesn't hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. The more coherent view is that invading is bad and you shouldn't do it, so Russia and Israel are both in the wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Did you watch the video... It seems you replied after just reading the title... I thought the video was simple and direct. All is well. Peace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago It mostly just boils down to the same "perfect victim" nonsense that also manifests as "but do you condemn Hamas?" Yes Ukraine does bad things. Very bad things. It was known as the most corrupt country in Europe, a title that has fierce competition. That still doesn't justify an invasion. And it isn't like Russia didn't invade before the 2014 coup; they actually invaded during the riots leading up to the coup, and seized territory that they still hold today (as Israel has done so many times to Palestine). They also aren't only looking out for ethnic Russians in the Donbas. The initial invasion planned to take Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. It turned out that the Russians significantly overestimated their capabilities and underestimated the amount of military hardware that Europe and the US were willing to offload on Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Did you watch the video... It seems you replied after just reading the title... I thought the video was simple and direct. All is well. Peace. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago It mostly just boils down to the same "perfect victim" nonsense that also manifests as "but do you condemn Hamas?" Yes Ukraine does bad things. Very bad things. It was known as the most corrupt country in Europe, a title that has fierce competition. That still doesn't justify an invasion. And it isn't like Russia didn't invade before the 2014 coup; they actually invaded during the riots leading up to the coup, and seized territory that they still hold today (as Israel has done so many times to Palestine). They also aren't only looking out for ethnic Russians in the Donbas. The initial invasion planned to take Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. It turned out that the Russians significantly overestimated their capabilities and underestimated the amount of military hardware that Europe and the US were willing to offload on Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago It mostly just boils down to the same "perfect victim" nonsense that also manifests as "but do you condemn Hamas?" Yes Ukraine does bad things. Very bad things. It was known as the most corrupt country in Europe, a title that has fierce competition. That still doesn't justify an invasion. And it isn't like Russia didn't invade before the 2014 coup; they actually invaded during the riots leading up to the coup, and seized territory that they still hold today (as Israel has done so many times to Palestine). They also aren't only looking out for ethnic Russians in the Donbas. The initial invasion planned to take Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. It turned out that the Russians significantly overestimated their capabilities and underestimated the amount of military hardware that Europe and the US were willing to offload on Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world [S] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child) The Fourth Branch^[[1] The 4th Branch - Immortal Technique | Lyrics (05:18 | Rap, New York Rap, Perรบ, East Coast Rap, Conscious Hip-Hop, Politics) | https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ffxUT7Puf0 | https://lemmy.world/post/36943977]. I think it has to do with propaganda and the continued political tribalism and divide-and-conquer of the working class and poor. The only difference is some believe they are immune or above its influence, while some try to take account of it and continue to learn from not only government and establishment sources but dissident views and independent journalists as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago what are you even yapping about? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago what are you even yapping about? permalink fedilink source parent
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