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[–] 129 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who could have predicted the risks of having an army of murder-rapists with PTSD? /s

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  • [+] 109 points 1 year ago (23 children)
  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Russia has a ton of practice at becoming an even shittier place.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    It's like their thing.

    It's actually kind of mind boggling. Lenin knew this was a thing and took all sorts of steps to correct it, but his mistake was demanding it to improve by force. "We're making your lives better now, or else."

    I mean, shit, a big ass group of armed dudes on horses show up in my cold ass disconnected village and they say we need to do x, y, and z to improve our lives or else? Yeah that's sus.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    It’s almost like all authoritarian government is actually a bad thing

    Looking at you, China, USA

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Not really. Actual democracies have incentives to make things better for the majority of people. And the easiest way to do that is to break up monopolies (especially in media), tax the rich, and then invest heavily in education.

    Coincidentally, the way to kill a democracy is to do the exact opposite.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Show me a state that has done any of this to great sucess? Even democracies don't seem to have much stay past two hundred and fifty years.

    A state always ends as authoritarian tool used against the people it persecutes the most. Very snow ball effect like.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Uh? Na-ah. You show me working alterternative.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So your example is coalation of 50 tripes with council who decites major decitions? Wow. That really sound ground breaking and unique way to govern people.

    Didint their end beging when they could not agree how to respond to British Crown request of aid during the American Revolution?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    You act like any state did any better for the people it ruled at the time.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No. I asked you an example of a better system and you did not deliver.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And you failed to show it is at not better? Because of one mistake? While fighting colonialism?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    No. I asked you to prove your point and like i tought you just wanted to bash common modern ways of ruling without offering any concrete alternative.

    The only example you produced was failed coalation of tribes, that was not unique in the eyes of history or especially well functioning alternative to modern goverments.

    You just earlier argued that in any state where somebody has power they will use it wrong. How their system was immune to that?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    while the Grand Council served an important ceremonial role, it was not a government in the sense that Morgan thought.[40][41][42] According to this view, Iroquois political and diplomatic decisions are made on the local level and are based on assessments of community consensus. A central government that develops policy and implements it for the people at large is not the Iroquois model of government.

    Per your source. Also important to note that those that were allowed to sit on the "grand council" were determined through hereditary succession. So if this government had power it would be essentially a confederacy ruled by nobles.

    I won't disagree that a nice decentralized democratic society would be pretty awesome, but it's also a lot harder to do with 7 billion people.

    In your example each clan would have been no larger than a small town. Less than 1,000 people. Of course, there were towns that used to exist in the Americas that were much larger, but for many we don't know how those were governed. Particularly those in North America. By thr time Europeans began asking the large cities had collapsed due to disease

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There is some irony is that the main part of a public sentiment in favor of Putin is that there wouldn't be another 90s era of violence and economical instability as long as he is in power. Well, the economy is somehow stable in how it degrades, but the amount of street violence climbs on. Out of last three times I took a fight in my block, first was in ~2008, last two happened in 2024, both with dead drunk proud boys in vomited over camo clothes, asking me if I served. It's not yet the 90s level of chaos, but I can't imagine having a daughter there. Many, as I've heard, share the same anxiety, but nevertheless can't figure out who created that problem in the first place.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He only got nine years for murdering his wife and was out within three years? How does that happen?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    That's the background for the story: Russia sent their convicts to war in trade of a "get out of jail"-card.

    The guy was in jail for killing his wife. He took the deal and was sent to war. He got shot, got sent home as a free man, and immediately started killing people again.

    It's not a single case. It's likely that convicts are taking the deal, not just to get out of jail, but also so they can go back and get revenge over those that put them in jail in the first place.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago*

    Who could have forseen this?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wait, are there any convicts left? The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month, I would have guessed they were the prefered ones...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The have casualties in the tens of thounds per month

    It's been a joke for years now that if Ukrainian kill counts were accurate, they'd have decimated the entire Russian army multiple times by now. Russian media has made similar claims of Ukrainian armed forces.

    Both national media are doing the Vietnam Kill Count rhetoric to say they're winning a fully Pyrrich War.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Good. I hope he dies slowly.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    I thought the point was to get them killed as fodder before they could return home.

    They maybe get a few Ukrainian kills in, and no longer have to pay to incarcerate a person.

    They can't even get that right?

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  • Oh no, my army of criminals survived the war I sent them to fight and expects me to allow them to reintegrate into society

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Nobody likes to meet the Gaddafis of their actions.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Ukraine can help him solving that problem.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Societal debt brought on by prolonged authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Whole lot of military aged men coming back with experiences of being abandoned, left to die, ordered to die and seeing through the veil.. Enjoy

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I just watched this episode of DS9

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    SOURCES SAY!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Putler dead within 6 months. You heard it here first.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Broskys about to stroke out from the stress. His own body will kill him if not someone else. When you're responsible for a cumulative 1.5-2.5 million deaths, you're not a person people are sad to let go.

    Economy tanking, losing the battle, 1.5 million dead Russians, he's not the mafia-fluencer he was in his youth. Lavrov is a fat slob, dude can't even stop his own drooling.

    Modern warfare is entirely non beneficial to huge land masses. Try playing air defense swap-a-roo when the next missile or drone is 1k km away.

    Also if Europe decides to ram his ass, they will, that will be his excuse to wind down the war, but to get to that tipping point, is so stress inducing, no amount of drugs will help. The drugs induce a spiral.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Here's hoping. I'm not so optimistic about Europe really flexing their muscles, but I look forward to being pleasantly surprised!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Europe's producing more rounds and providing more artillery than Murica. When the Yanks provide some old junk they appraise it at 50X the value then bemoan doing god's work while leaking Intel.

    Europe and Ukraine are flexing. They've decimated Russia's military without any European boots on the ground (although they should be in the fight imo, it devalues Ukrainians to let them be the only one taking casualties for defending Europe). Then again, in 20 years, Ukraine will be telling Europe where and how to manage their militaries.

    Ukraine was the powerhouse for arms manufacturing during the Soviet Era and they're quickly retaking this position.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Everyone here jumps on the band wagon, but seriously, 500 is nothing. It will do absolutely nothing. He could not care less.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The 500 number is the number of victims from returning soldiers as of October 2024, not the total number of incarcerated soldiers in service as your comment implies.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Yes, but that is nothing. They loose 1000 soldiers every single day. Why should they care about a few (Russian) victims per month extra? Putin does not fear that at all. It is so irrelevant he might not even know about it to begin with. Let alone destabilizing the whole society, that is pure nonsense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The only thing that he's actually good at is having powerful propaganda machinery that would have left Brezhnev deeply envious of.

    Otherwise and outwardly, he looks unfazed at some military setbacks, but he still have legions of Black Hundred fanatics having bought the concept of Russia as the center of the world.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago
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    The cost of war:

    10X-15X the battlefield deaths occur after the war is over. When the well cared for soldiers come home in a proper mental state. 10 times! Sustainable?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Putin logic:
    The more you lie, the more honest you are.
    The more you steal, the more trustworthy you are.
    The more you lose, the more winning you are.
    (Beat that, gay western men who steal Russian women!)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Hudson and Den Boer trace the rise in offspring sex selection in China and India that has resulted in a "surplus" of young men. They argue that such surpluses of men increase the potential for internal and external violence, while diminishing the prospects for democracy. This phenomenon could destabilize the two countries, the region, and beyond.

    This was written in 2002. Seems like the pretictive power of the theory isn't too strong.

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    [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    In contrast to all that society stabilizing that he himself is doing.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    denial and whataboutism, truly a Russian Hallmark

    funny how he brought up 1989 and the fall of the Soviet Union.... history repeating?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Did someone say coup?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago*

    Violent convicts with fresh PTSD loose on the streets. Sounds like they're bringing a little war home, just as a treat. Not seeing the problem?

    Joking aside, my ex-wife wasn't autistic but still clueless as to other's emotions, zero social skills, worked at Navy Federal Credit Union (largest in the world, not just US Navy or servicemen. Funny enough, my current wife works there.) She'd come home crying after talking to the guys home from Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Those men were/are fucking wrecked. They couldn't understand the simplest things, couldn't handle elementary arithmetic, angry and scared, half-assed deaf. When their wives called in it was worse because the husband was mentally or physically incapable of making a fucking customer service call.

    I had never seen that woman cry over her own problems, let alone cry over others.

    Worked with some young(ish) combat vets at Lowe's last spring. Those guys are physically and mentally wrecked. Heard one man talking to another about how fucked it is to have your buddy dead in your lap in the back of the evac chopper and you couldn't have saved him.

    Yeah, I spun on my heel having walked up to that. Nothing in my life story to contribute. Had mild PTSD twice, not counting twice saving my own life. Goons robbing 5lbs. of weed at knife point in my living room, on Christmas Eve, just doesn't quite compare now does it? Fuck me, I cried for two decades over a puppy I had to mercy kill. (I'm over it now. Still a little wiggy about the bear incident.)

    Both those men appear perfectly fit. At 54, 140lbs. dripping wet, light emphysema, functional alcoholic, I was physically on par with these younger men. And both of them were fighting the VA for any sort of benefits. "Not service related." is the key word.

    All that to say, if that's the American combat experience, long before tiny, flying, explosive robots were a thing, imagine what Russian troops are bringing home. Damn. Never thought I'd feel sorry for Russians.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Let's call them con-cons because it sounds cute. (exp: conscripted convicts)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Lets hope he reaps what he sows.

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