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[–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why has Omarchy blown up like this? Are there really that many devs out there or is just right-wing influencers pushing it?

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  • [+] -32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Because it's a competently-made, new distribution with interesting features. Not everything you don't understand is a fucking conspiracy.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    With all due respect, I think you profoundly misunderstand the nature of my concern here.

    This is not a “I do not like this distribution” kind of argument.

    This is a “the people you are sending my money to want me and my friends dead or deported” kind of argument.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    What? I feel like I'm missing something.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yes. Some context would be welcome. Otherwise this feels like spam to sabotage a company actively participating in right to repair. (Edit: OP's post history seems to be in good faith. Maybe they will clarify

    I have no idea what this is about. Framework on Wikipedia doesn't even have a "controversy" section

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Framework has endorsed a Linux distribution by a developer with controversial social views.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I hate phrasing like that. He wants to be able to murder certain kinds of people he doesn’t like

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He does?

    I read the first link in the thread that examines his blog post about London. While I don't agree with his politics he wouldn't be unusual amongst a significant minority of the population who vote for the likes of Reform. That seems to be enough for some to draw the conclusion he's a Nazi he wants to arbitrarily murder people.

    This automatic jump to accusing anyone who you disagree with a Nazi just devalues the term.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Nah I don’t deal with that apologist crap. The endgame is always going to be murder or slavery if you’re not white enough for them. If you let them pull any of their shit they’ll murder you in the end and laugh that you were stupid enough to let them. Zero tolerance.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I believe it's necessary to clarify þat Framework is giving material support to two projects which are headed by controversial personages - not just endorsements.

    It's a long þread.

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  • [+] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    TIL Omarchy exists, is a dogshit arch spin and Framework is for some reason giving the sweaty loser running it and that rails cunt money because... Skidiots? I don't get it, sponsor something that isn't dog shit.

    This sours my trust in their ability to discern basic facts about vendors. Disappointing.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Only just found out about Omarchy the other day and it's just a Hyperland config with a bunch of Ai shit pre-installed...

    Why are people even talking about it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's... that's what a distribution is. A base OS with bundled, preconfigured user applications.

    Take a gander at the git repo: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy

    It does as much as most desktop distributions. More in some areas. It has merits regardless of your politics. I know I'll be borrowing some of the scripts.

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    [–] 122 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Overblown. You'd think they sold weapons to nazi, they sent a couple of laptops to open source developers which turned out to be assholes. People probably give more money to nazi when shopping and paying taxes

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago

    This is whataboutism. In short, worse things happening elsewhere do not invalidate the concerns here. Enabling fascists in this burning global society of ours is dangerous

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • And Ellison is deeply involved in controlling the US media landscape and the second wealthiest person on the planet. Ellison/Oracle are crab-rave bad. Framework is just "I'm not paying tons of extra money to support them and their philosophy" bad.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Framework is a small company. In all likelihood they just did a poor job of vetting the people they supported. That is a much more reasonable explanation than "Framework consciously support Nazis and agree with their politics".

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    By the way, community reaction like this is a great way to kill any incentive companies have to sponsor open source.

    If CHUDs start piling on Framework for something that turns out to be a nothing-burger I'm gonna buy another Framework laptop just to offset the damage.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Giving money to open source projects on which you rely on for your business is good practice. While I've just now heard about DHH and his political views, I think it is important that the overall mission is to make Linux (and open source software) a mainstream alternative to proprietary solutions. As long as this is not hurting the mission I am personally fine with some unusual partnerships. The alternative is a world where Windows and macOS rule the world.

    Additionally open source has always been about stepping up, so contributing or throwing money the other way are always an option. I personally donate to many projects I use. I mostly feel that my political views align with them.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know it's not intended, but this meme is low-key saying you support framework (you just can't afford it)...

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Never mind what is up with Nazis? I don't know about it.

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  • [–] [M] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Please observe rule 3 point 3:

    No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.

    It goes both ways. The situation is still developing, whatever information you have might become obsolete an hour from now. If you need to air your feelings, this isn't the right place for it. It's also worth keeping in mind that the interaction that led to this controversy was nothing more than an already opinionated post and a reply from a Framework employee who has no say in who gets sponsored. Even the person who made the original post decided to "let it rest".

    Be intelligent, do not be led into a smear campaign on somebody's leash.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's also worth keeping in mind that the interaction that led to this controversy was nothing more than an already opinionated post and a reply from a Framework employee who has no say in who gets sponsored.

    The employee in question is Nirav Patel... the CEO

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Funding a non political project when you disagree with the politics of the owners isn't evil. I donate to the lemmy devs from time to time

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Seriously though you can get a brand new thinkpad for cheaper price than a similar framework. The prices are eh.

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  • [+] -22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I hate framework because every laptop I've owned has been equally or more customizable and upgradable than a framework laptop. They're great at marketing, but that's about it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I own a Framework laptop and had a dead pixel. I replaced it (within warranty) in about 15min. I could as well buy a new higher resolution display for that same laptop if I wanted to. This is new and is an improvement over my Thinkpad, where I could "only" upgrade/replace RAM, SSD and the battery.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Look at this guy who can upgrade his RAM and battery /j

    No seriously, I fucking love my FW13 and I really hope nrp and FW clarify their stance on these projects. Even if they're a tiny minority of the projects they support. Maybe it's overblown, maybe it's just "let's give a laptop to the guy who makes my new fav distro", but it's bad due diligence.

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