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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Man we had such a nice break from him since the election.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 129 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    "A Canadian politician"

    Isn't this guy the head of their conservative party?

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yes, the leaders of the parties are, in fact, politicians. I'm not seeing what point you're trying to make, he's even cited as "the leader of Canada's official opposition party" farther down the page.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm discussing the headline, and yes I'm aware they're politicians, headlines conventionally refer to people by the most notable thing about them if they can't get away with directly naming them and people knowing who they're talking about.

    "A Canadian politician" implies some borderline rando rather than the leader of a major opposition party, which is more concerning than the headline implies

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're reaching, the headline is hardly doing that, and the article certainly isn't. Even someone unfamiliar with Canadian political parties and their members couldn't possibly come away with the impression that Poilievre is a "borderline rando" unless they failed to spend 30 seconds reading that 1/4 essay of a blurb.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Again I'm talking about the headline in isolation, not the rest of the article.

    The reason it's important is that if people do read "borderline rando" rather than "leader of a significant party", there's a much greater chance they don't click and get the extra context

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The headline is doing exactly that. My first reaction was "of course some asshole is, probably a conservative." And then I clued into the photo and recognized the buffoon. If I wasn't a Canadian, or didn't have the picture, or maybe wasn't good with faces, I would have scrolled by not realizing the idiot in question iis the leader of the Conservative Party.

    A responsible headline would have said that. It might as well have said "A random white guy from Canada is openly spreading propaganda." I mean it's a true headline right? Not misleading at all.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    He’s a piece of shit. Got voted out last election and then made another politician resign so he could run a “safe” conservative riding in Alberta. He is a garbage person with zero redeeming qualities who has never passed a piece of legislation despite being a lifelong politician never having any other job. He’s a grifter who has sucked off the taxpayer tit his entire career. He lives in taxpayer subsidized housing . He will never be Canadas Prime Minister. We call him PeePee, or Millhouse or just “massive douchebag”.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    He got voted out AND lost his riding.

    For those in the US, it's the equivalent of a governor with presidential aspirations blowing a 30 point lead to lose the election, then immediately getting voted out of his governorship, only to then ask Greg Abbott to step down so he can run for governor of Texas while living in DC.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Shut him up now or you'll be like us in less than a decade.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's already far deeper than him.. he's just what bubbled to the surface in that pot.

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  • Canada being a racist country pretending to be progressive is its biggest flaw, I grew up hearing about how perfect Canada is, and then I got older and learned about residential schools and genocide and how they have historically treated people like me. Now im old and I see a country that doesn’t care that its citizens can’t afford food or rent or a future. It was all a lie.

    Having said that, pp represents the people who caused all the misery and hate for centuries

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's just the latest in Rupert Murdoch's line of pets he has trying to spread his shit across Canada.

    Harper was one too but thankfully his plan to implement Sun news, which would have been a news channel that was the Canadian equivalent of Fox, was never brought to fruition.

    But sadly much of rural Canada drinks the Fox news firehose.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Dont brush it off. Look at us to the south. Dont brush this off. Chase these people with pitch forks and torches until they are forced to make their own shantytown in the wilderness. It won't go away they have to be forcibly removed.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's not going to take that long. there are a lot of people that really love them

    but yes I do hope that we can sort our shit out and not end up like you. and if we do, please everybody else treat us like shit

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Unfortunately his base laps this shit up like free Monster Energy at an anti vax rally

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And in a way that’s fine because he will never appeal to swing (liberal-conservative) voters with his extremism which means his party will never win with him as leader. Which is fine by me. It’s been a decade since Harper left and no one from that shit party has won since Harper. They need a moderate like Erin O’Toole or Peter McKay to actually win. But the CP party has been taken over by reform alliance douchebags, so they won’t win.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    He's a f--king dumbass. Lot's of us Canadians refer to him as "Piss Pants" or "Pee Pee".

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's never a bad day to punch a nazi.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fuck that guy. I hate pp so much.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tiny PP is a piece of shit. I had hoped Canada had cut off its PP earlier this year but Nazis are like hydras

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    well we did. and then one of his lackeys who did win in some butt fuck no where town decided to step down so PP could have it. I mean the guy not only lost the PM race but also lost his home riding so he quite literally had to move somewhere else and have that place handed to him.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Ah yes, gloss past the fact that they were nationalists before they were socialists, even if you take their name at face value.

    Fucking Polievere. Every time I think he can't get any more unlikable.

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  • He has to be the worst candidate they have put forward in a long time, carney is pissing me off but this guy is dangerous. As soon as he came back he started in in immigrants and his supporters started up their racist protests

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It seems that Beaver Trump wants to invoke the tired, old "But socialism in 'national socialism!'" trick. Surely, the same logic applies to Deutsche Demokratische Republik. I remember coming across Poilievre during the WE Charity scandal. I'm not Canadian but I really like their Fifth Estate documentaries and their coverage on the aforementioned scandal caught my eye. In a separate video, Poilievre grills the two heads of the operation. This seemly obscure Canadian PM suddenly became Canada's favorite favourite politician and possibly the next prime minister. But it soon become clear that Poilievre was just another right-wing, Trump-esque populist.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's trying to be disruptive in the same way as politicians in the Trump regime, and there's probably a reason for that. Maybe the same reason he won't get his security clearance?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Kick him in the mouth

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    From what I've read, Canada DOESN'T designate nazis as terrorists.

    Chickens DO come home to roost, "leaders", INEVITABLY.

    Correct the problem!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    So glad this goof didnt get elected.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Well, he had to have his own election to get a seat this time around.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    He may win next election unfortunatly

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The pro trump anti woke rhetoric is not popular. I didnt believe it since I live in Alberta and my sample group is a bunch of drooling fucking morons, but after watching him tank the last election by leaning pro trump I think they will have to ditch him and that approach if the conservatives want to win.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I hope you're right but with the way Carney is absolutely shitting the bed with leftists, I'm not sure we'll have as many people leaning Liberal next time which could lead to a Conservative minority. I know a lot of people that are regretting not voting NDP even though they normally would have.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah Carney pulled out the win on anti-Trump sentiment but since then he's put his elbows down. Way down.

    Our Liberals are as weak as the Democrats and we're all going to pay for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Because an extremist like him cannot convince enough swing voters to vote for him. I know conservatives who voted for Carney because he’s essentially a Blue Tory or what would have been a progressive conservative back in the day before the Conservative Party in Canada got taken over by the extremist Reform party. No way PeePee appeals to enough moderates. Harper and Peter McKay merged the conservatives and the reform and we haven’t had a conservative PM since Harper a decade ago. Canadians federally are mostly just liberal.

    Not to mention, as long as Doug Ford (the most powerful conservative in Canada) is in power in Ontario, federally the country will never go conservative. There is always either a conservative federal government with a liberal Ontario provincial government or a liberal federal government with a conservative Ontario provincial government. They never align.

    So no. PeePee will never be PM.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Extremist Trump won though and it was obvious that he would make america trash again

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    We have an entirely different system up here.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Why your mother didn't teach you respect? Getting trigged by everything?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So if socialism is bad because it's in the name of Nazis, then democratic republics for the people must be pretty horrible too, going by the DPRK.

    While we're cherry-picking, the Kingdom of Norway is consistently one of the best countries to live in across several metrics. So clearly we should go back to kingdoms, because it's in the name. Sometimes the old ways are best XD

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a much more-fundamental example:

    Socialism is when parents shelter, clothe, & feed, their children, who don't have earnings to shelter/clothe/feed themselves.

    Every parent who feeds their babies is demonstrating socialism, no matter what their politics purport to be.

    Keep the framing universal, & that guts the gaslighting's position MUCH more effectively.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for sharing that idea! I appreciate what you’re getting at: that basic care (food, clothing) embodies the tenet of equality in socialism. However, the example of a parent feeding a child doesn't quite capture the power-relations, freedoms, and systems aspects of socialism. I don't think we really want to say a master feeding/clothing their slave or a king feeding/clothing a favorite court jester is really "demonstrating socialism". Socialism is about how society as a whole arranges ownership, production, and resource distribution (i.e. collective ownership of the means of production). It's a counter to capitalism.

    Parental relationships are, ironically, a special case where limiting freedoms and greater power disparity are justified in most egalitarian systems. We usually don't give children ownership over the means of production.

    Good formal description: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socialism

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I can never tell if politicians honestly believe the National Socialism of the Nazis was actually socialist, of if they're taking advantage of dumb voters. If it's the opinion of a "man on the street", then yes, he's that dumb.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think the answer to your confusion is in the fact that the actions National Socialists always take is the oppression and subjugation of the vulnerable in society.

    that in itself is proof that they are not socialists, but fascists.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought this guy was supposed to be smart?

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    [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    PP so pathetic. Lost the election lost his riding lost his mind. And he’s a career politician. So none of this is excusable.

    Pathetic.

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  • This fucking guy almost made Prime Minister. That's how close we got to more of this bullshit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is he as dumb as our clown in chief

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    No, his claims are not "simply" ignorant, as the article claims:

    his claims are INTENTIONALLY ignorant, which is malevolent, is disinformation, & is gaslighting-of-fact.

    The difference between the 2 states is signficant.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    This guy is human garbage. One of the moat dishonest politicians in Canadian history. If carney hadn't run, we have had freedland, and she'd have had a historical lose to pp because of her ties to trudeau. We'd be the 51st state already.

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