The two key turning points are going to be the midterms and when it comes time for the next election. Depending on how those events go, and if Trump hasn't died at some point in the next couple years (either from natural causes or because someone learns how to aim), things will likely go one of two wildly different directions.

If we actually have elections, and if the gerrymandering isn't so horrendous that it's impossible to overcome we'll hopefully see a Democrat elected and we'll start the incredibly slow crawl back to normalcy, hopefully with some significant reforms to make sure this shit doesn't happen again. The process is going to take decades to unwind all the damage Trump has managed in just a few years, but in theory we'll get there eventually.

On the other hand, we could go the opposite direction. Republicans retain the majority in the midterms, and then when the next primary comes around either we just don't have an election or Trump "wins" a 3rd term despite that being unconstitutional. At that point we're likely looking at either a civil war, or the US being defeated in a 3rd world war like Germany was in order to undo all this crap. Neither option is good and if things get to that point the world is fucked, the US doubly so.

If I recall, killing Nazis worked in WWII.

Consider Spain, Argentina, France, Italy, Libya, Panama, Syria, Germany

The only thing that works once these fools get entrenched into the political machine is a good old fashioned ass whoopin.

FWIW this is why I think it’s so important to keep the farmers and union workers on our side. They are the means by which everything else is built upon. If they’re on the other side, well then the machine can keep on grinding.

For inspiration you can look into what the countries the US implanted dictatorships in did

Discover socialism. Not commie tanky left authoritarian bullshit. Just the moderate basic human decency stuff.

Old fashioned people caring about each other. Workers supporting each other. Vets supporting each other. Women supporting each other. Families supporting each other. Neighborhoods supporting each other. Inclusivity. Opportunity. Holding out a hand to the less fortunate. Redistributing wealth so people can have dignity and hope.

Start with taking back schools as safe places from gun massacres. If you can't do that you can't do shit. It's a basic litmus test for a functional society. Take back streets for pedestrians. Take prisons and hospitals away from corporations. Get rid of tipping in favour of a fair living wage. Take a fucking holiday occasionally. It won't kill you.

The problem is Americans are kept ignorant about what is possible. In place of knowledge all they have is lies. What is the point of change if you don't even know what you want. You will just end up with more of the same.

Every time I say it I get banned. I say, we remove the people who silence us.

They need to protest. REALLY protest. General strikes, obstruction, shut down everything. You can't walk around with a sign on a weekend once a month when it's nice outside and expect a wannabe dictator will back down. They are spendinrg every minute of every day stripping away your democracy and you have to fight back with the same intensity.

Look at Nepal. France. Italy. They didn't ask their government to listen. They MADE them. It's YOUR country! Fight for it!

People, on the whole, will choose the easiest path.

People are also really bad at estimating risk, usually overestimating short term risks and underestimating long term risks.

So what happens is that people choose what they estimate to be the easiest path, based on their faulty ideas about what the short and long term risks are.

Which means that in order for real change to happen - by whatever means - people have to perceive that the immediate risk of change is lower than the future risk of staying the same.

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Nothing, look to pre War Germany

A significant percentage of people supoort this, many, many others think they're not going to be targeted and this will all blow over.

Even my dumb as shit family members who voted for trump are beginning to turn on him. I don't think Americans really have any tolerance for his turn to fascist dictatorship. Sure, a few deplorables out there do - but we outnumber them 100 to 1.

Personally I think MAGA is going to eat itself. Especially if Trump dies in his sleep.

The real problem is this cycle will happen again in if we don't have a reckoning where the fascists and their sympathizers are made to permanently renounce those leanings. I think we should take their trigger fingers.

No idea. ICE is blatantly breaking the law and local police are not arresting them.

It’ll be like McCarthyism, it will be allowed to go way way too far, then in an instant it’ll be stopped, shunned and everyone will be repulsed by it. It‘s well on its way to the same fate.

Ensure the venture isn't profitable.

I think what Germany did to get corporate money out of government is miniscule to what America will have to do.

Massive job losses.

Probably having time off of work and not being too tired from living paycheck to paycheck unfortunately.

Haven't you been paying attention? Lots of people are. What are you doing?

The only real path out of this is economic collapse.

The administration has engineered a clever slow rolling authoritarian takeover. There is no single line in the sand that you can point to and say this is where authoritarianism starts or this is where fascism starts. And pointing out a dozen things sounds hyperbolic "oh you think everything's fascism".'

The American citizens are going to sit here like a slowly boiling frog as long as there's never one singular shock. And unless there's a tea party-esque movement on the left in 26 the Democrats are not coming to save us.

But if there's a crash like '08, and they're very well could be, they're not going to be able to sound bite their way out of that.

America won't course-correct until it is forced to do so.

The political establishment is so totally insulated in a media bubble that there's no way to reach them, internal pressures can be safely ignored. Only external pressure can change this country now.

General strikes should have happened months ago. You're actively letting Maga normalize miltary troops quelling protests.

There is nothing to be done if your head is stuck in the old world, which is where 98% of Americans still live.

All I've seen on social media are two distinct camps: someone help us, please we don't want this, and are you fucking crazy I have a family and a job I cannot do anything.

Enjoy the fascism, you've earned it. You'll just have to learn your lesson the hard way, a la climate change. This is only a sneak preview of what happens when you ignore the obvious for too long.

I have been thinking about this for quite a while, and I think I have a pretty solid solution. Now, keep in mind, it is easy to dismiss it because it is simple, but once you dig into it you will see the benefits. I propose on-fire things.

I know, I know, but just consider it before you write it off. Yo dont have to go all-in, maybe dabble a little and see how it feels.

progressives buying in to 2A. Do what the black panthers did.

We need wide public support and organizing against the regime.

The American Empire is falling apart, and has been for quite some time now, what we're seeing right now is a childish trashing about and refusing to accept reality or adapt to present global conditions. Every year, more and more countries that used to be pro-US turn neutral, and countries that used to be neutral turn towards China. The US will become more and more isolated, diplomatically, economically, and so forth, and it will become increasingly impossible to pretend that it's "#1," while domestic conditions get worse and worse.

Soon, if not already, we will be in a situation where the only credible advantage the US has to leverage is the military, and it may choose to start WWIII with China in a desperate attempt to stay on top.

The ruling bourgeoisie don't really want this, they're doing just fine in the current system, but stoking fear and hate of the Other distracts from problems at home. The danger is that some true believer is going to get into a position of power. Someone who isn't just saber-rattling to justify giving more money to the CEOs of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin so they can buy another beach house, but who actually sees a hot war between major, nuclear-armed powers as desirable. The further conditions deteriorate, and the longer we go on with fear and hate being stoked, the more this possibility becomes an inevitability.

If that happens, everyone will lose. If somehow it remains contained and doesn't end life on earth (as it probably will), then, win or lose, the US will be finished. Maybe the US could throw everything it's got into stopping China, but then another power will emerge and it'll be spent.

To avert this future, we need a radical left wing shift, with drastic cuts to the military and the money going towards improving ordinary people's lives and addressing various domestic crises. The US is not Superman, we are not invulnerable, we do not have the ability to go around the world "fixing" every situation everywhere. Instead, we need to focus on the things we can control, starting with within our own borders. Because when the world sees us falling apart, why would anyone want to follow us anywhere? And repairing domestic issues would go a long way to averting the rise of fascism.

But unfortunately, nobody seems to want this, Republican or Democrat. Every administration keeps funnelling more and more money towards the military, keeps getting involved in conflicts and resorting to force, and keeps failing to address domestic problems. No, we can't just mind our own business and focus on getting our own shit sorted out, we have to go send bombs to Syria and Yemen and Palestine and Ukraine, bombs bombs bombs, the only currency the US uses in international diplomacy. If we had spent a tenth of the money we're spending fighting over Ukraine on making life better for ordinary Ukrainians after the end of the Soviet Union, there wouldn't be a war. And right now, there are tons of countries that are slipping away because we're too stingy to spend that 1/10th on them (of even on our own people), because building bombs instead helps the rich get richer. But nobody cares. It's madness.

Either we have some broad social reckoning with our obsession with militarism and hatred of the poor and forigners, or we stay on this idiotic course until we drive off a cliff.

Kill your leaders.

Boycotting any business which encourages discrimination against people, government surveillance. Engage in community outreach, teaching your fellow community members about socialism and progressivism and nationalism. Also shaming and calling out people who support them. Dont be too much of a dick about it. Just simply tell them they are evil for supporting those people who victimize the innocent and steal all of our tax money, and try to brainwash everyone with algorithms and advertising backed influencers.

Also get out and vote blue no matter who until the Republicans stop supporting the state and then unify with them to get rid of the state so we can reform our system, kick out the rich, and take back control of our laws and state. You need to vote in every election, even if you have no chance of winning. We also need to do our own polling to ensure they are not tampering with the votes.

Do not date anyone who is maga, tell them why as well. Tell them they need to either support the common people or they need be happy being alone with their big paychecks as they support the state. Materialism or humanism. Until we can reinstate democracy and reform the state and our laws. We cannot compromise with those people in any type of way. We have to start from the ground and work our way up. Also make sure you show up to jury duty to support your fellow citizens against the hostile anti American judicial system. Do not allow religion in your home. If you see people wearing religious symbols in your business, that comes from the big 3, then ask them to leave, since these same maga businesses do the same to non Christians. Observe no anti discrimination laws which protect religious people but do not protect queer people. Don't get yourself sued or put in prison but there are many ways you can keep those people out of your community and make it hard for them. They don't belong here unless they support the people and democracy and human rights first. If they want to strip people of human rights then do not observe their human rights. Don't let them be hypocrites.

Well stopping the nazis required intervention from other countries. As a Canadian, I really hope my country doesn't have to intervene. But it seems the only other way to stop this, besides intervention from outside, is violent revolution from within.

Violence is the only way

For the Ostriches to pull their heads out of each others asses and see where their troubles comes from. They wont notice until its at their door.

🔫 probably...

A general strike would be way more effective, but Americans are apathetic cowards.

So the best we will probably get is a rapid decline until someone fed up who is violent and skilled lands a good shot.