Oh yeah, Apple is just gonna leave the billions in revenue to Google and Samsung. Sounds plausible.

Oh lord, they brought up porn apps. I’m fine with the walled garden.

If Apple would consider more support for PWAs, we would have less of these problems. But noooooooooo, PWAs mean app-like experiences without the need to pay Apple.

And nothing of value will be lost

obvious bluff is obvious

Apple wouldn't stop. They need that money too much. Also, Europe is OK with going Huawei if Google and Apple keep up with their shit.

They would never stop selling their products in Europe lol. And if they did, I wouldn’t care, even though I own a few Apple products.

Do it stop shipping.

Don't threaten me with a good time Apple.

It's just empty threats though. The EU market is bigger than America (considering population sizes only), there is no way they'd give up on that

Apple sold well over $10 billion worth of Iphones in the EU in 2024, but rather than deal with the annoyance of EU regulation they're just going to take their ball and go home.

They must think EU regulators are imbeciles.

Apple is a piece of shit company.

Learn how to compete without behaving anti competitively or quit your fucking jobs. It's not complicated.

Yeah I'm sure Apple's going to give up on half a billion potential customers. Sure.

Knowing Apple, they’ll probably find a way to ‘comply’ that feels more like a loophole than a solution....

I remember when apple used to reverse engineer microsoft software.. :/

Among the requirements of the DMA is that Apple ensures that headphones made by other brands will work with iPhones. It said this has been a block on it releasing its live translation service in the EU as it allows rival companies to access data from conversations, creating a privacy problem.

I'm not really understanding this. Where is the privacy problem? What is different with airpods that solves this? At the end of the day, are they not just bluetooth headphones? Do they add some extra security layer beyond what bluetooth itself offers?

They need us (our money). We dont even like them enough to not replace them the second they go away.

Oh no! How will I ignore their products now?

Am I misreading this or are their arguments all complete nonsense? From what I can see in the article they have:

1. They have to allow third-party headphones, i.e. the anti-monopoly policy prevents a monopoly.

Among the requirements of the DMA is that Apple ensures that headphones made by other brands will work with iPhones. It said this has been a block on it releasing its live translation service in the EU as it allows rival companies to access data from conversations, creating a privacy problem.

2. Other companies will "twist laws" to prevent competition, i.e. exactly what Apple is trying to do by removing regulation. I don't see any way to interpret this other than an outright lie, anti-monopoly policies encourage competition.

Apple said that under the DMA, “instead of competing by innovating, already successful companies are twisting the law to suit their own agendas – to collect more data from EU citizens, or to get Apple’s technology for free”.

3. Porn exists? I don't even know what they're trying to say with this one?

It said that rules under the act affected the way it provided users access to apps. “Pornography apps are available on iPhone from other marketplaces – apps we’ve never allowed on the App Store because of the risks they create, especially for children,” it said.

Our overlords from Brussels are fucking pussies rn. They want to monitor our messages and verify everything. And they also want to ban privacy coins for some reason.

That was always allowed

Cool, stop shipping the walled garden shit then.

Please stop shipping to anywhere.

Be pretty funny if Europe just banned them instead.

Good idea, safari sucks.

I like my iPhone. It's solid hardware and reasonably capable software. It does everything I need it to do, and gives me really solid control over API access to privacy-centric controls like location and microphone.

I still wouldn't skip a beat to switch to another phone manufactured by another company (though I regret how much of a duopoly there is). The inconvenience is minor; Apple just needs to give me a shove and I'll switch.

Big tech only cares about money, something that makes them very predictable. Very high fines and banning costs them money, so they will comply to all demands to avoid. Easy as that :)

Who cares? The average EU citizen will benefit far more from the regulation. I don't think any of their laws have been bad so far, mostly requiring standard connectors, requiring user access to install what they want without apples permission, and monopolizing software stores in general. This might be a great opportunity to actually get some consumer friendly competition out of Europe for once. Also Samsung already allows third party app stores, has USB C like every other modern device, and allows side loading. It's going to get interesting once Google starts complaining that they can't control users devices after they buy them as well with their upcoming ban on non Google approved software installations.

"If you don't let us misbehave, we're gonna cut off like a good 4th of our market share"

Hey Apple... Fuck you

, lol, good riddance.

Just the evil nature of a megacorp manifesting in monology tenancies.

Anti-monopoly laws are at most too loose atm, not too strict.

(Also the threat is just a threat, they've been saying that for a decade now.)

Don’t threaten us with a good time Apple!

Apple hardware has never been more boring, one iterative release after another. They rely on software and services to lock users in.

We should pay attention as alternatives are dwindling. Google wants Android to be more like iOS, you may not have as much freedom of choice as you think you do.

Тhe last time I would have bought an Apple it would have been an Apple ][.

It may stop shipping to the EU

Lol, right. Talk about an empty threat.

iPhone has about a 30% market share in the EU, which means Android is about 70% (I'm sure there's probably 2% that's something else).

Apple stops shipping to EU, that will drop to 5%, giving away 25% market share.

Pleas Apple, stop shipping to the EU, when you become a bit player everywhere but the US, you'll have to start competing by opening up.

Oh yes, they will 100% exit the second most profitable market...

Yes, clearly you'll give up all your marketshare in Europe to Android, makes sense.

Among the requirements of the DMA is that Apple ensures that headphones made by other brands will work with iPhones. It said this has been a block on it releasing its live translation service in the EU as it allows rival companies to access data from conversations, creating a privacy problem.

Is this an issue because the headphones are connected to some app made by the headphone company or something? I'm trying to figure out why this is an issue when headphones (at least that I've seen/used) don't have internet access.