"I'm not touching you!" is a poor way to run international politics.

See, now you've got a problem. If you'd shot down the first one, Russia would have made a big noise and then it would have been fine. Now that you didn't, now it's weird if you start shooting them down.

My advice is to just be straight about it: Publicly announce what the line is where you'll shoot them down, and then stick to it. Even if you just announced a date when the shooting-down will start any time they enter NATO airspace, that might be fine. But you have to stick to it. Right now you're trying to figure out how to make them stop without shooting them down, and that approach just doesn't work. Like you're all surprised they don't establish radio contact. Bro... that is not the game you are engaged in.

(You might also want to confiscate $10 billion in frozen Russian assets to give to Ukraine for each incursion, just to respond to what's already happened... but again without shooting them down it's not going to accomplish anything. The money's already gone honestly, and they know that, they're just waiting for you to figure it out and go through your whole "process" and make it official, and they think you're stupid and weak for every year that goes by that you're not doing that.)

Weird how Putin doesn't seem affected by Trump's aura of respect that would prevent him from daring to attack the West like Donnie claimed he was.

Shoot it down. That cunt putin won't do it again in a hurry.

What's the aim here?
Testing the west?
Numbing NATOs reaction through repetition? - crying wolf repeatedly worked well for Hamas, but it is a bit different here.
Some domestic politics related demonstration of power like Sapad25?

That's it! This time they are not getting away with it. WE'RE CALLING A FUCKING MEETING!

• NATO

I don't understand. If he can't even take down the Ukraine, how does he expect to take on NATO nations?

Too many weaselly people-pleasers making the decisions so they back off instead of risking a little apocalyptic super-war. Now we get this "I'm not touching you (with guns and missiles (yet))" bullshit that drags on forever instead. Enough foreplay and edging, it's time to fuck.

I guess it's time to move battleships into the black sea ( which should have been done a long time ago)

How long is literally everybody going to let Russia get away with these stupid stunts?

I'd not be surprise if that was a USA conspiracy to sell weapons to EU

A lot of people here encouraging shooting down a plane flying in international airspace. I suspect a lot of you are of the same mindset where it's OK to shoot random boats in the Caribbean and kill everyone on board.

Don't follow the war hawks ffs.