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[–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's ironic that Israel's stated pretext of wanting to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons with its declaration of war basically guaranteed that they will have them now.

Iran was always vary of economic sactions and potencial military attacks from western countries and while they actively worked on stockpiling non-weapon grade uranium they never crossed that line. Now that fear is moot. Now every single Iranian was shown that no matter what the world says or does they will always be seen as second-class humans by western world and the only deterrent is nuclear weapons (see North Korea, Pakistan). Just look at the reaction of skirmishes between India and Pakistan. World openly begged them to stop the attacks instead of encouraging it.

So while these attacks might delay the development of weapons, it can't be stopped. As military experts and US own plans shown that even most powerful US bombs are not powerful enought to destroy these nuclear facilities that are carved into the mountains.

War criminal Netanyahu in hopes of clinging to power through endless war fucked over every single Jew for many decades to come. Enjoy the consequences of enabling genocide and proping up a war criminal.

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    [–] 68 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Jesus christ I’m getting a bit worried that Bibi’s gonna pop some canned sunshine. Fuck me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Does Iran have operational nukes? They'd probably respond in kind. If not, they'd probably launch basically everything they have at Israel.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Pakistan has made guarantees that they will retaliate with their nuclear weapons if a nuclear strike occurs on Iran.

    EDIT: I went to find a source and Pakistan has walked this back and are denying that they ever said it

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    They do not, that’s kind of what this whole deal is about dude. And they’ve been launching what they have at Israel for a few days, it’s not much.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, he seems narcissistic enough that he really doesn't think there would be consequences.

    Hopefully there are other people around him who doesn't want the rest of the world aiming everything they have at them.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t think they will, but I’ve been thinking that one way Israel could get current and potential future enemies off their back for good would be if they finally showed the world that they do possess nukes and are not afraid to use them, possibly by making an example of someone. I do hope they won’t prove quite so callous.

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  • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As Tehran residents evacuated the capital in increasing numbers, Israel’s defence minister, Israel Katz, threatened to make Tehranis “pay the price” for Ali Khamenei’s decision to keep firing missiles at Israel in retaliation for the Israeli attack.

    This is literally an adult... saying "why are you hitting yourself".

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    Pathetic act by Israel.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Proof that Iran needs the bomb, and quickly.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    The Gaza playbook.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Why is Isreal bullying Iran they didnt do anything to deserve this.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago*

    Netanyahu has had a hard on for regime change in Iran for 30 years. Israel wants to destroy every country in the region that is pro Palestine. With the help of the US neocons, he has virtually succeeded; turning Syria, Libya, Iraq, Sudan into failed states that pose no threat to Israeli hegemony.

    This policy was first set out in the 1980s by Israeli strategist Oded Yinon who called for breaking up Arab states into weak, sectarian mini-states (Sunni, Shiite, Kurdish, etc.) fragmenting states in the Middle East to weaken them

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago* (7 children)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    If that's true why haven't they obtained a nuclear weapon in decades given Netanyahu has been warning that Iran is weeks away from developing a nuke since the 1990s?

    Why did Iran sign the JCPOA in 2015 which limited Uranium enrichment?

    Why did they let in IAEA to monitor enrichment?

    Why did Tulsi Gabbard say Iran is not producing a nuclear weapon in March?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Radiation signatures can tell you if its enriched for fuel or enriched for bombs.

    Iran did NOT want to use it for bombs. Nuclear energy would greatly benefit their energy portfolio. But cretin westeners cant see beyond bibis fearmongering and everyone thinks these people are stupid or something.

    Now I think Iran should make a couple.

    I also think Israel does not have any nukes themselves. No tests. No drills, no payload development. No IAEA inspections (THE DPRK ALLOWS IN THE IAEA). I think its much more profitable for Israel to fake nukes until the US helps them with actual ones when needed launching.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    That was my thought, having followed the social media coverage of recent unrest in Iran over hair covering and so on. Iran does need regime change, but Israel is definitely not the right people to do it. No idea the solution, but I hope people can find a way to stay safe.

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    [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Joshua/WOPR: SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I would t call what Israel is doing as a genocide. Not yet at least. But we clearly are seeing how Russian air defenses are basically useless against American 5th Gen fighters.

    Maybe Russia needs to figure out their shit before they sell defensive systems that do nothing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Hm, I've had this feeling that I can express thus: these missile exchanges, decoys, air defense saturation and "War of the Cities" feel like dry runs for nuclear exchanges. They are perfecting the launch and psychological warfare tactics.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's always serious and prep at the same time.

    They're seriously fighting over resources and land, and prepping for the future wars to come because everyone knows the resource wars are around the corner

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Israel will never use a nuke. That would be the end of global economies. They care about money more than they care about nuking Iran. They don’t need to nuke them. They have complete air control. They can do whatever they want with explosives now.

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago

    The Pentagon Pizza Report is off the charts right now. The nearest Domino's is super busy and the local gay bar is empty.

    Major shit is going down tonight

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe this is the nuclear winter that will cancel out global warming

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I forget the title but there’s a sci-fi story where there’s a galactic council between sentient creatures but they don’t invite newly discovered sentient species to the council until they survive the milestone where most sentient species nuke themselves out of existence

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Way to fuck up relative world peace, Israel. I wouldn't be surprised if they used nukes at some point. And if they do, I fucking hope pur world governments are going to fucking react and tell Israel to sit the fuck down ans shut the fuck up.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Meh honestly it was the US and Russia baiting each other into conflict that set off this whole bullshit cascade imo. Either way it fucking sucks and millions of innocent people who aren’t involved in any of this bullshit are going to suffer. I hate bourgeois politicians.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Maybe the nations belligerently bombed by Israel should begin issuing their own evac orders? "We are going to do something nasty. Please don't be inside overnight on Monday" and then bomb something minor.

    Repeat weekly, different day each time. Something small.

    Week 11 say Thursday, really wreck some stuff the day before with no injuries, and say "oops".

    Repeat until they fucking get it.

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