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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

So what? Hemorrhaging users and trying to hide that? To protect stock value?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is this to hide bots somehow? Hide subscriber loses?

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    The member count is being replaced by two metrics. One shows how many users have visited a subreddit in the past seven days, “based on a rolling 28-day average,” according to Reddit, and the other displays how many contributions have been made in the past seven days, excluding any posts or comments that have been removed.

    Imo this is actually not too bad an idea, though I don't quite follow what the fuck visitors in the last 7 days needs a rolling 28 day average for. Even before I left the site years ago, there were plenty of subreddits that had huge subscriber numbers and no activity anymore. Or activity that didn't reflect those numbers. Kind of like with some of your old favorite channels on youtube, people don't really unsubscribe so places that you used to visit a lot may have a lot of those numbers still but then you see their videos getting a few hundred views or posts only ever getting a dozen upvvotes. Those metrics will show actual current and recent activity of the subreddit instead of possibly inaccurate legacy numbers.

    It's not necessarily based on whether or not a platform is dying to make this kind of a decision because even in a healthy site, areas age and fall out of favor inevitably, users move on to different interests, etc.

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    [–] 66 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Literally haven't regretted a single day since I left that platform, fuck reddit

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I don't know what it is about reddit buy I find myself constantly feeling outraged when I stop by to browse something that's not on Lemmy. I don't have any accounts anymore luckily but for some reason reddit feels harder to disengage on then lemmy/piefed.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    Ah, the old stock-pumping strategy of cooking the books and only sharing good numbers. Never change, Reddit.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    At first I thought it’d be a good change because subscriber count can really distort size of the community on older subreddits. On the other hand - given that this whole thing runs on inertia I don’t see how new metrics solve this. Big subreddits will stay big because they’re big already.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    But it won't detect the bots that it doesn't want to, so the numbers will just be bullshit.

    "Buy ads based on my fictional metrics, please!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Ofc they will, so the can inflate participation with bots all they want.

    If bots weren't counted, it wouldn't actually be a bad metric IMO.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fuck reddit, it's all fucking bots and Russians at this point.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good, glad I stopped contributing to Reddit. We need to stop being so dependable on US social media giants.

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    [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Much better than long dead accounts that subscribed.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Why should they show subscribers of dead accounts? I think they only kept that to "prop up" numbers before the IPO.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Because the number of subscribers gives you a better idea of the size of the community than a vague “visitors”

    It's literally the exact opposite. Subscribers from dead accounts aren't active, they aren't part of the community, they aren't discussing. They are dead accounts.

    The people that ARE in the community are the actual users that show up on a regular basis. THAT is what shows the actual size of the community. Not that it was once a default sub for hundreds of thousands of accounts that are no longer active.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Yeah but it's not solved JFC. Could could could isn't accomplished by their currently showing subscribers of dead accounts. JFC.

    And it couldn't be solved easily anyway. What's a dead account? Log in once a year? That's certainly not active in that community. But hey let's count that anyway, right? Subscribed but all you do is browse all? Not active, but let's count that too, right? A game is popular for a while and gets tons of subscribers, then peters off and the people don't unsub and just browse all. Again: not active, but fuck it let's count that too. See the problem yet? Subscriber is way vaguer (your word) than actual participants.

    Enjoy the last word if you want it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because there is a level of stability in subreddits with >50k ish subscribers that subs smaller than that just don't have. You might have a lot of MAU because a sub hit r/all multiple times but goes back down to a much smaller number following that because it's out of the news.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The point is they don't actually have 50k subscribers if 30k of those are dead accounts. They have 20k. Showing 50k accomplishes absolutely nothing. What stability? Stability in use? No. Stability in shown numbers? Yay but it's fake. Any and all default subs that are auto subscribed have pumped up numbers when users leave.

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