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No One Knows How to Deal With 'Student-on-Student' AI CSAM (www.404media.co)
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[–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Punish the one who made it? Seems simple, no?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's less about punishment but moreso mitigation. An administration can easily "scare" or "punish" these kids for these actions but it doesn't do shit. They just keep doing it.

    I suppose these days it's so easy to generate this kind of horror that we need to start figuring out how the Hell we teach kids that this is wrong.

    It boils down to the same ole' same ole'. Foolish adults see these crimes as "kids being kids" (though it's predominantly young men and boys committing these crimes) -so, "boys beings boys".

    "They didn't know better", and so on.

    The fact is, they genuinely didn't know better. AI is a part of the younger generations day-to-day lives. However that isn't to say that some of these children did in fact know better.

    The answer is probably pretty simple. Teach kids how to navigate the web and AI safely, and when "fiction" (AI gens) skew and bleed into reality.

    Teach them that AI used in such a fashion causes real-world damage. Innocence lost. Childhood gone. Lives ruined.

    And most importantly, teach kids, teens, & young adults (though young men and boys are the core issue AKA the main ones genning...) that people aren't objects.

    It's a surprisingly complex issue, but only because certain technologically illiterate adults who think they know better are the ones in charge.

    To better understand just how bad things are and have been I recommend watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HuOrrznBvs

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for sharing that video. Holy fuck that's beyond messed up. I had some vague idea that non-consensual deepfakes are being made and used for blackmail, but I had no idea it was so organized, so shameless and blatant. And with incentive systems to share training material as conditions for entry to school specific chat rooms. That's absolutely FUCKED.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Unless these features are put behind a paywall I don't see how they can ever be mitigated. And even a paywall won't keep everyone out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Unfortunately open source AI models of all kinds are already so good I could gen an image of a world leader doing anything.

    To be precise the AI models people use in these circumstances are either open models (specifically designed for NSFW content) or jailbroken models. In other words there's no limit to entry financially.

    To top it all off the public models are typically the self-hosted kind, meaning it all runs on their devices. Though one caveat regarding AI CSAM in specific, the models required are the kind you have to "know where to look" to find.

    It's all surface net so it's typically as simple as going to a "chan" board/site of some sort these days

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    • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Every day we stray further from God. We have strayed so far that I question if there ever was one to begin with.

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