I have finally given up on so many websites that refuse to believe I am human even after clicking the stupid box at least 6 times.

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[–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately due to AI scrapers and botnet spammers, bot filter mechanisms are needed now more than ever to evade DDoS, scalper bots and scams.

It doesn't have to be cloudflare, though they are the biggest and the performance is renown. Deflect - deflect.ca is a Canadian alternative solution I've seen implemented on Cory Doctorow's blogsite pluralistic.net

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Completely understand the sentiment! It's very annoying to get these.

    As a website operator, I don't have a lot of defenses to bots crawling my site. As it stands, around 60% of my site traffic would be bots. I have to pay for data for this, as it's just a hobby.

    You can bet damn well I'm using cloud flare's free tools to keep this unwanted traffic down, even if it annoys a few of my dozen users.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    That sucks as a user but it's necessary for the retailers because of fraud bots. If you're getting loads of these prompts then it's possible you have some malware running somewhere on your network which is causing more suspicion for your IP address.

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I don't have a network, as far as I know. I'm just using my tablet or computer at home off my wifi.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Your WiFi is your network. Run a virus scan on that phone and computer, and anyone else's you might live with.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There are website that will check the reputation of your IP address. This is a legitimate one https://whatismyipaddress.com/blacklist-check

    Is your IP address (if you just visit that site it will automatically input your IP address) showing up on blacklists? Run this when your on your wifi network.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    So it doesn't appear to be something on your network (though you should check this again in a couple of days as your IP may change regularly). Another possibility is a browser extension causing suspicion. What browser are you using and do you have any browser extensions installed? Also, do you experience these insistent CloudFare challenges on your laptop and phone or just on your laptop?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    The bottom line up front: its not a Cloudflare issue or a Canadian online retailer issue, it's legitimately an issue caused by something on your side.

    Cloudflare has the best AI, malware, DDoS, and botnet protection i have ever seen from any commercial provider in my 30 years of being in tech.

    The fact that it's blocking your IP means you have a concerning issue with your network. If you are paying for a ISP that uses mobile networks to give you internet, you are likely being flagged because someone else is on your CGNAT doing fucky things and you need to switch to another ISP.

    Or your own network in your house is compromised and you are genuinely part of a botnet that Cloudflare sees as a threat and blocked you.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I switched to Linux recently and immediately started getting cloudflare bot checks.

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    Bullshit. If flags immediately if you have

    a) an adblocker b) a VPN c) Linux d) Any sort of security hardened browser like Cromite or degoogled Chromium or Fennec, etc...

    It's not about someone doing something fucky on your network. It's about daring to do something that deprives the tech giants of profit. It's the next evolution of the "please disable your adblocker to continue viewing this site" message.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I have all of the things you just listed (also have a network tap running OPNSense, Suricata, Unbound, and with a SIEM intercepting ALL my net traffic to filter and reroute through my Cloudflare & Quad9 DNS name-server/resolver/TLD, along with AdGuard using a Hagezi blocklist) and rarely get flagged to prove I'm a human, if not ever. So what the fuck is really going on here?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What you are saying is entirely bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Don't use that site as the only diagnostic; it doesn't have a comprehensive check, and also doesn't support IPv6 so it is extremely limited in scope.

    First, go here to grab both your IPv4 address and IPv6 address (in case you are CGNAT), then go here and search for both of your IPs.

    Edit: I don't think I was clear, but the second link is what all cybersecurity analysts use, amongst a slew of other tools to confirm malicious activity.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Unfortunately, I can almost guarantee not a single Canadian retailer will see this post.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    For me it behaves like that if I have adblockers and noscript running. It gets stuck in a loop

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