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[–] 12 points 1 year ago

Don’t post paywalled articles without archive links pls

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (25 children)
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    What if I told you we could feed and house everyone now, the rich just don't want to. If that's what these people really cared about, they would have been marching against the stage 3 tax cuts. They're racist nazis and can all bugger off.

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    Thanks for confirming you're a fucking idiot. Stage 3 literally did nothing for low income earners.

    And they're problem is they fell for disingenuous nazi fucktards like yourself, who think they're smart by reading from the nazi troll handbook.

    There is no middle ground, just horrible, dumb little shits like you, that are stupid enough to keep trying to pull everything to the right. Hope that taste of billionaire cock in your mouth keeps you happy when it's your turn for them to grind you up, because you're no longer useful to them.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    There were exceptions to the rule, but taken as a whole, the organisers of the Australia ones were neo-Nazis and related cryptofascists. This was well-known in advance.


    The Melbourne rally literally used Thomas Sewell's own podium that you can see in their own NSN videos.

    The Townsville rally used the NSN's branded megaphone, Katter says there was no other one there.

    The Sydney organiser, Bec Freedom, is a white nationalist with strong links to the NSN. Before the rally, it was well-publicised that they were a white nationalist in conversations with neo-Nazis. 1+1.

    “There’s a lot of people trying to claim the rally as their own and turn it into a unity march,” Freedom said. “I understand why some people are saying it’s not about race. Though people like that … they’re scared. But if we break it down, this is how I tried to explain it to somebody. I said, OK, so protect Australian heritage, culture, way of life. Next step, protect European culture, heritage, way of life. The next step is protect white heritage."

    'Auspill', one of the earliest and central promoters has strong known links to the NSN and creates memes supporting esoteric Nazism concepts like Hyperborea. In a word, Auspill is a Nazi.

    The main March for Australia website originally had and then redacted a call for the neo-Nazi wolf-whistle of 'remigration', you can see this in archived copies of the website and it was widely reported. The rally Facebook page consistently and repeatedly advocated for including the NSN at the march and downplayed them.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I wish that was all that it was, a lot of those marches were pretty heavily coopted by some incredibly racist people though and they're pretty tarnished as a result. The neo Nazis showing up in force sorta drove that point home.

    I think that our immigration rate is too high, but those protests in particular didn't really contain themselves to just that issue.

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    Results were wildly different in different rallies. For example, in Sydney, the crowd was about 50:50 on boos and cheers for the neo-Nazi speaker. This is very different to Adelaide where the organisers rightfully (albeit far too late) tried to deplatform the NSN once they took to the stage and spewed their garbage, leading to a fight and the end of the event.

    I believe it was only the Sydney one that let one of them speak

    They owned the only microphone being used at the Townsville rally and they owned the podium used in the Melbourne rally with widely-used footage of Sewer speaking there. So you have to be pretty out of the loop if you honestly believe that.

    Just because some bad people try to co-opt something it doesn’t mean that they were bad people protests. The overwhelming majority of people there were there for the stated reasons, none of which were racist or “neo nazi”.

    We can't generalise everyone, you're right that a majority probably wouldn't have supported neo-Nazis, many in larger rallies may not have seen them there before they took the stage, and plenty of attendees I wouldn't consider to be racists, even if they're expressing or supporting racist rhetoric. But this doesn't change the fact that most of them attended a racist rally and should understand that and learn for next time this nationalist cover is tried.

    It was co-opted before 99% of the people going there even heard of it. It was well-publicised in advance that many organisers were known neo-Nazis and white supremacists. The official promotions kept posting racist rhetoric about Indians, framing European immigration as acceptable. At the end of the day, it was largely a neo-Nazi attempt to appeal to broader nationalists, with some, limited, success. There were plenty of cheers among the boos during their speeches. "The overwhelming majority" didn't fuck off or fight back once literal Nazis took the stage, and in most cases, kept the stage for the whole speech.

    The anti-immigration rhetoric, that the housing crisis is caused or heavily impacted by immigration, is a racist deflection of real economic issues. I'm not suggesting that people repeating the argument are racists, or even that they realise it's a racist argument. It's a very normalised argument and once even promoted by Labor politicians and mass media. But that doesn't change the fact that it's racism being used to deflect the housing crisis, the education crisis, the hospital crisis and more away from the government and the owning class. Stopping migration won't even begin to solve those issues.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this?

    Because its the same as blaming immigrants for Aldi running out of some Wednesday special, one thing has nothing to do with the other, so suspicion then falls to racism being the real motivation because no sane person blames the housing shortage on immigrants.

    It's a managed, restricted supply thats the issue, compounded by dipshit voters reelecting the asshat polticans who cause it, rather then giving politcans who want to solve it a go eg The Greens.

    We punish the homeless, protect the investor and blame the immigrants, talk about ass backwards.

    https://australiainstitute.org.au/post/migrants-are-not-to-blame-for-soaring-house-prices/

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That’s the line racist people love to go with.

    It falls apart when you suggest spending a ton of cash on social welfare programs to help those locals and get told “well, no actually”.

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