President Trump says he may send National Guard to New Orleans next instead of Chicago "We're making a determination now," Trump said in the Oval Office to reporters. "Do we go to Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans?" Portrait of Joey GarrisonJoey Garrison USA TODAY

President Donald Trump suggested he may not send National Guard troops into Chicago as he's repeatedly threatened, and for the first time introduced a potential new target for his next crime crackdown: New Orleans.

One day after he declared, "We're going in" about plans for Chicago, Trump on Sept. 3 said his administration still hadn't decided whether he would deploy troops to the nation's third-largest city. Trump instead pointed to New Orleans, a city in a Republican-led state, in contrast to Democratic-led Illinois.

"We're making a determination now," Trump said in the Oval Office to reporters. "Do we go to Chicago or do we go to a place like New Orleans, where we have a great governor, Jeff Landry, who wants us to straighten out a very nice section of this country that's become quite, you know, quite tough, quite bad"?

"So, we're going to be going to maybe Louisiana," Trump added.

Fuuuuck. So once again I am guessing he's going with the path of least resistance bc our governor would literally burn us to the ground if Trump asked him to show his loyalty. I have no no doubt he would let Trump use us to test out any authoritarian bullshit requested.

Meanwhile, I believe Trump lost a lawsuit yesterday with California and I know Chicago's mayor and governor were both making plans and preparations to resist occupation. So again this will be a very easy way to signal he's doing something.

BTW, in addition to already having a private nonprofit surveillance company that works with NOPD and LSP (and already set up the only live tracking facial recognition surveillance system of its kind in the U.S. with no notice or input to the public) the National Guard will be New Orleans 4th official branch of city dedicated law enforcement:

NOPD

Louisiana State Police (LSP) branch Troop Nola was permanently established in the city last year by Governor Landry almost as soon as he took office.

And if you have anything like a car wreck, you have to deal with a private company the city contracts out to called On Scene Services (OSS)

All I've heard since Troop Nola was established is how much crime is down and we should be grateful for their presence. But apparently that has suddenly changed and we need to add a 4th (in addition to ICE and official ICE State police partners who may already be using the facial recognition surveillance tracking system with zero oversight.

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[–] 66 points 1 year ago

Are the Epstein Files in the French Quarter?

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (16 children)

    LA mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass

    DC mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muriel_Bowser

    Chicago mayor, black man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Johnson

    Baltimore mayor, black man https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Scott

    New Orleans mayor, black woman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Bass

    What a very odd coincidence. Every city he wants to deploy troops to happens to have black leadership. So strange. I wonder why....

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Quick AI assisted search gives this:


    There are currently 13 black mayors of major cities in the United States. The cities with black mayors include:

    1. Los Angeles, California
    2. Chicago, Illinois
    3. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    4. Charlotte, North Carolina
    5. Washington, D.C.
    6. Memphis, Tennessee
    7. Baltimore, Maryland
    8. Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    9. Atlanta, Georgia
    10. Detroit, Michigan
    11. Tulsa, Oklahoma
    12. Killeen, Texas
    13. New Orleans, Louisiana (Mayor LaToya Cantrell)

    Don't know if this is an exhaustive list of black mayors of major cities, but it definitely is a familiar sounding list

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Don't know what constitutes "major", but if you expand out to the top 50 by population then over half have a mayor that is a PoC. A lot of those are in red states and are in trouble if these fascists start targeting blue dots specifically, I fear

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You have to be careful, saying you used ai gets you mega down voted. Lemmy is a weird place at times.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The problem is that AI halucinates and says things that aren't true with full confidence.

    To me, saying "I used AI to answer a question" is no different than saying "I asked my neighbor. He's pretty smart and knows about these things." He might be right 95% of the time but his words should not be treated or repeated as facts without independent verificatfon.

    Or put another way, if the top result in your Google search is a reddit post, maybe look at some other sites too.

    So to this person stating that they used AI, thank you for being honest. Now we know that your info might need a little more analysis if there's any error or dispute.

    I'm not saying that we shouldn't use AI, it's an excellent tool. Just saying that we need to be mindful of what LLMs really are.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    ChatGPT can hallucinate, others are better.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    They all hallucinate. Just like NA (Natural Intelligence, which I suspect is also an LLM)

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    That it is technically possible on all of them does not mean that they all do it to the same amount. Geez Lemmy users need to catch up and not be left behind in their rabidness. AI isn't going to take your job, someone that knows how to use Ai will take your job.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well my reply to that would be that it's as dumb as saying you'll never use Google because it shows you porn sometimes.

    For general searches that are common knowledge, it's a very good tool for fetching information. No it's not perfect so don't take anything from it to the bank.

    But for discussion purposes? More than good enough, no more subject to error than real humans and almost always more accurate and thorough.

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  • [+] 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Spot the difference!

    Hint: Republicans control the entire state government of Louisiana and will bow down to trump and his MAGAts. Democrats control the entire state government of Illinois and will fight back.

    My guess is that trump wanted to do Chicago, but he just just the Los Angeles Posse Commitatus lawsuit and Illinois is fighting back. Going for New Orleans means that the mayor there will be on his own, so there's less pushback and more opportunity to push the envelope.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Maybe they need more opportunities to normalize sending National Guard troops into cities. LA was met with lawsuits and protests. Chicago was likely going to be worse.

    But if he does something like New Orleans now and maybe Memphis next, then when it comes to the next democratic city, it will be less likely to get news coverage. Cut to midterms next year, every city will have their elections “protected” by red state national guardsmen.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They are setting precedents to use to declare martial law, 2028 in mind I presume.

    The most worrying precedent is one that got little attention, federal judges being forbidden from issuing Nationwide injunctions. They could declare martial law, round up citizens and disappear them and we would be functionally unable to challenge it, if you somehow got a chance to file a lawsuit they could jam up the process indefinitely and it would not help anybody else. The courts believe the Republic is over and we are in an autocracy already. The politicians believe that. The lawyers believe it. It is just the citizens that are not all aware yet.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Your comment depressed me. I hope Americans don’t stand for this shit. Dems need to take the house in the midterm for any hope of changing this future.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    We need to take the house to even have a chance of electing an opposition politician. If they control the house and the senate, and every other means of rigging the fails them, it is safe to presume they would use fake vote rigging projections and vote the presidency to their own guy.

    To get to that point we would need a popular muscular opposition that we still are lacking though. They are going to try to force Gavin Newsom and offer zero real reform and weakly trust the courts to protect elections and fail the overwhelming majority and muscular politicking that would be needed. He would not meet the moment if he got in anyway, we need a restoration and a new deal.

    On the plus side there will be a succession fight and an epic fight in the nest of Vipers for supreme leader so that could be our only chance to take it from them before it is rigged beyond recovery.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    TACO Trump folds to Chicago cause they stood up to him. Pay attention other cities, you don't have to just roll over!

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Our governor is welcoming him with open arms. He literally made a post on his X account saying we welcome them with open arms across the entire state.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So it's not an emergency? It's on a rota?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    TACO knows Chicago ain't gonna mess around. A red state will roll over and show it's belly.

    Still not detracting from: WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES, PEDOnald???

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    TACOs do seem like a good idea for dinner.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Trump needed to get his goon squad to punch a bunch of black people on camera and Jeff Laundry was more willing to play ball than J.B. Pritsker.

    I'm not looking forward to the Louisiana National Guard getting back into practice shooting black people trying to leave the Superdome twenty years after last time. I don't really consider slow rolling one of America's largest black cities until it looks like The West Bank any kind of win.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I'm not looking forward to the Louisiana National Guard getting back into practice shooting black people trying to leave the Superdome twenty years after last time.

    Hey, first of all, okay, they were black! And, y’know, suspicious! Probably escaping from something!

    For those who don’t know also it was just regular cops, not the guard, but that was twenty years ago, before the mask-off fascism.

    Heck, it’s probably the plan.

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  • [+] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    And he’s in the Epstein Files. Don’t forget that.

    What's the kind of end game of this thing? What would happen if it was decisively proven that Trump is in there and actually fucked underaged people?

    Would USA get President Vance? Would that be better? Or is the point just to keep hammering about the Epstein files, not to get Trump fired but to just create tiny stings at him so that he cannot do things?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Got to intimidate the blue states. Notice how he isn't sending his SA to Houston, one of the highest crime rates in the nation?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Get ya po’ boys ready!

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Texas National Guard has already been staging troops and equipment at Great Lakes. I wonder who paid for that.

    e:

    Ah I got that quote wrong, however:

    "We have reason to believe that the Trump Administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois."

    https://youtu.be/1B8j1ZO6oG8?t=428

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I doubt that's Texas National Guard, everyone would know if they already deployed.

    Much more likely that Great Lakes is hosting a surge of ICE agents

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm gonna trust Pritzker on that. His statement yesterday briefly mentioned that his administration is receiving "unauthorized" information from "patriots inside the [Trump] administration."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Pritzker said he received information about Trump's plans, not that the Guard already deployed.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    He said that Texas National Guard was staging at Great Lakes "starting yesterday [Monday]".

    e: @FlowVoid@lemmy.world drew me to recognize my error.

    Ah I got that quote wrong, however:

    "We have reason to believe that the Trump Administration has already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois."

    https://youtu.be/1B8j1ZO6oG8?t=428

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No, he said "ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, the Department of Homeland Security, and other similarly situated federal agencies" had started staging.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is the solution? Roll the military? And to what end? Forever? This is the solution to crime, bring in an army that is hand picked to be loyal only to Trump.

    This is what you gt when you vote and have no brains.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    President Donald Trump suggested he may not send National Guard troops into Chicago as he's repeatedly threatened, and for the first time introduced a potential new target for his next crime crackdown: New Orleans.

    This really goes to show that this has shit to do with crime. It's just "what other state will I fuck over now? Who don't I like?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fuck this. Where do we protest?

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The Louisiana governor is receptive to it. Dumbass sycophant.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Trump Always Chickens Out

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Dems should lock down every city in similar ways so that it's only Republicans forced to see how useless it is to have the National Guard aimlessly wandering around the streets with weapons

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    What weapons? Illinois has very strict gun control, including an assault weapons ban.

    There are exceptions for federal officers. But if Trump can't find a way to federalize the Texas Guard...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    As long as you got a friendly governor and a city with enough black people, I'll launch a domestic "liberation" campaign.

    - Trump, probably

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It's all made-up bullshit anyway; might as well flip a coin, dumbass.

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  • Protect from who?

    Cmon say it, I'm listening

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  • I told you whatever he thought was going to happen wasn't going to happen.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Doubting the Big Easy will be as easy as expected.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a lot less black people in New Orleans than Chicago. I'm confused by this shift.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Trump needs a new fucking hobby. Hobbling around all day bitching about where to send National Guard troops too next. He’s just a petulant old man waiting to die, ready to bite if you dare disturb him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I've been to new orleans and it sucked.

    You can drink in public and everyone pisses in the street because all the stores charge people to use their bathrooms.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Hmmm, sounds like you kinda suck

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not really. Sounds more like you're insecure and flustered.

    Try to learn how to take criticism 😎

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nah, I just really love my city. I've always believed you would have to be an incredibly miserable person to come here and not find something you enjoy.

    From your description I would assume you never left Bourbon the entire time you were here. Sucks for you 🤷‍♀️

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Good. They should take it up the ass since they are flag and faith trump glazers.

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