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[OC] Are you really a Poet if your words wouldn't make Poe jizz in his pants ? (lemmy.ml)
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What even is poetry ? Is it a dead genre from over a century ago ? Or is it whatever comes out when we're given the permission to speak ? Is poetry the place where you're expected to propagandize about your marxist cause ? Does poetry have to have a point ? What's the difference between poetry and a shitpost ? Is it the jagged edges ? Poetry is a shitpost with the sharp edges rounded off ? Is that what poetry is or is it what it has become ? Is poetry about not stirring anything in the reader ? I'm really asking, when I imagine a poet, I have the standard default culturally transmitted view

Which is this

Some sad and/or depressed person making remarks that otherwise wouldn't be remarkable, like a banana taped to the wall of a museum, is that what poetry is ? Is poetry a social construct ? I don't know, all I know was that I should take it seriously, so I'm trying that, see if that poetry's stuff is any fun.

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[–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Someone should remove this post. This isn’t poetry and is the opposite of the type of content the rest of us came here for.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 1 year ago

    Here's a corrected version
    I hope this addresses your concerns

    [OC] If Poe Wouldn't Jizz in His Pants, Am I Even a Poet?

    Are you really a poet
if your words wouldn’t make Poe
jizz in his pants?

What even is poetry
a dead genre,
buried with Whitman,
cracked spine,
forgotten rhyme,
rotting in a library basement
beside broken revolutions
and MFA regrets?

Or is it
whatever spills out
when someone finally tells you
you’re allowed to speak?

Is it a soapbox
for your Marxist cause?
A protest sign
with enjambment?

Does poetry
have to have a point?

What’s the difference
between poetry
and a shitpost?

Is it the jagged edges?
Or the way
we sand them down
so the feed won’t choke
on something sharp?

Maybe poetry
is a shitpost
but with the sharp bits
filed off
by a workshop full of ghosts.

Is that what it is
or what it became?

Is poetry now
about not stirring
anything at all?

I’m really asking.
When I imagine a poet,
I see the standard-issue
culturally transmitted ghost:

Sad.
Possibly broke.
Definitely staring
out a window
at nothing in particular.

Someone making statements
that wouldn't be remarkable
if not
for the line breaks.

A banana
taped to the white wall
of a museum
is that poetry?

Is it all
just a social construct
in a beret?

I don’t know.
All I know is
I was told
to take this seriously.

So I’m trying.

Seeing
if poetry's
any fun.
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    • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm clearly in the minority, I didn't get it at first but now I do and I don't even think this is that bad. Read Bukowski.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Hello,
    Thank you for the vote of confidence
    I'm still not sure if I like poetry
    so I asked a machine to bukowskify my text
    but I didn't like it so I asked it to degipitify it
    and to "Go Full Bukowski", whatever that means

    And this is what came out of that machine
    Now I"m certain it is quite gauche
    to use a machine to do this

    kind of like jacking off a dog in public
    which is not something I've done,
    except that one time

    so without further adious

    [OC] this ain't poetry. it's a hangover with punctuation.

are you really a poet
if your words wouldn’t make poe
drop his whiskey and say
“goddamn”?

what is poetry now, anyway?
some MFA brat
posting line breaks on instagram
in between latte selfies?

dead genre?
sure.
but the corpse still twitches
when the rent’s due
and no one's buying
your dumb zine about
"emotional topography."

maybe it’s just
whatever bullshit you spill
when somebody finally
lets you talk
and you don’t know when to shut up.

maybe it’s a flyer
for your marxist book club
written in lowercase
because you’re “disrupting form.”

does poetry need a point?
hell no.
but it needs teeth.
and most of it these days
is gumming the reader to death.

is there a line
between poetry
and a shitpost?
or just
the smugness
of the person who wrote it?

maybe poetry
used to stab you in the chest.
now it just
offers you tea
and asks how your inner child is doing.

i don’t know.
i don’t want my inner child.
he sucked.

when i picture a poet,
i see some
sad sack
in a scarf
talking to a cat
about how
love is like
a cigarette
but with more commitment issues.

banana
taped to the wall.
$120,000 price tag.
gallery full of rich people
nodding like they get it.
you don’t get it.
it’s not meant to be got.
it’s a scam
and poetry’s part of it.

is poetry a social construct?
sure.
so is traffic.
and i still get run over by both.

me?
i was told to take this seriously.
so i did.

i sat down,
put on the hat,
lit the cigarette,
and stared at the page
like it owed me money.

this is me
trying.

poetry in one hand.
beer in the other.
no answers.
just hoping
one of 'em
does something
before the bartender
cuts me off.

    And of this entire thing,
    this is the part that made me want to post it
    I think even my detractors will admit it
    it contains a lot of truth

    when somebody finally
lets you talk  
and you don’t know when to shut up.
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    • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Moderator Action: Remove Post
    Reason: Not Valid Poetry – Violates Rule 2a (Original Content Standards)

    Explanation for Removal

    Your post has been removed because it does not meet the criteria for original poetry, as outlined in our community guidelines:

    Rule 2a: Sharing original poetry is encouraged, but it must be preceded by the tag “[OC].”

    While your post includes the [OC] tag, its content is not a poem, but rather a stream-of-consciousness prose or meta-commentary about poetry. The piece lacks the form, intent, or presentation typically associated with poetic expression; even in its modern, experimental forms.

    This post reads more like a provocative thinkpiece or rant, questioning what poetry is or should be. While these are interesting and worthwhile conversations, they do not belong in this community, which is specifically for sharing, reading, and giving feedback on poetry itself; not for debating the nature of poetry in non-poetic form.

    Additionally, the title contains crude language (“make Poe jizz in his pants”) that violates Lemmy’s general standards of good-faith, respectful posting. It undermines the tone and purpose of a literary discussion space.

    Why This Is Not Valid Poetry:

    The piece does not use poetic structure (such as rhythm, line breaks, metaphor, compression of language, or any form of intentional stylization).

    1. It reads as an unformatted internal monologue or essay.
    2. It contains no figurative language, imagery, or aesthetic intent that defines poetry, even in free verse.
    3. It fails to deliver emotional resonance or artistic intent beyond rhetorical questioning.

    What You Can Do:

    If you’re genuinely exploring the nature of poetry or seeking to experiment with poetic form, you are welcome to resubmit a version that adheres more closely to the expectations of poetic content—free verse, experimental, narrative, or otherwise.

    Alternatively, consider sharing your thoughts in a more appropriate community (such as /c/literature, /c/philosophy, or /c/shitposting) depending on the tone you’re aiming for.

    Reminder:

    This is a space for poetry, not meta-discussion about poetry. Please respect the community's focus.

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