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[–] 9 points 1 year ago

This is pretty much me rn. Still living with the folks. Bummed out. Not really looking at the marriage thing. A life partner would be nice.

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    Life pro tip: fight lifestyle inflation/creep. Use all the shampoo. Be conscious of waste. Don't take it to "frugal jerk" levels but just keep in mind that you have to earn every dollar you spend.

    At some point, you'll probably be making more money. People tend to choose to take this opportunity to also spend more money. Keep this to a minimum. Do you want to retire in your 40s or in your 80s?

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    lmao, you think anyone in their 20s right now is gonna be able to afford to retire, period?

    Must not be from the US. That, or whatever you're smoking, I want some.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ah, the "just make more money" solution. Simple.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Most people do end up making more money the longer they stick with a job/career. It may still be an unfair wage but a 50 cent raise is still some extra cash at the end of the day, and that little bit can go even farther if you are frugal with it. If you have a surplus of even $50 at the end of a month you can start investing it to at least keep up with inflation or if you're lucky even get ahead a bit.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    At some point, you'll probably be making more money.

    say you are 35+ without saying so

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    nah if you're 30 but spent at least five years in a relationship AND you had career growth in the last five years AND you got out of school without debt AND you haven't had any major setbacks AND you're generally frugal, you should have a decent amount available due to splitting expenses and be making okay income now

    <30 tho idk you might be cooked

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    you could have just avoided all that text by writing ‘be born to parents with money’

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    nah my parents barely had shit, just very frugal

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    you can’t frugal 12 an hour in 2025 much less 7.25

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm under 35 and I agree with him. The vast majority of people will end up making more money as they get older

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    lmao have you looked at US income/social mobility recently?

    no one cares if you are a few raises better off I’m talking real wealth growth

    I’m betting you grew up with parents that had money

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  • I'm not trying to make light of the exceptional challenges you face and the opportunities and luck I had but I didn't have it particularly easy.

    In my childhood, I'd generally get new shoes when the old ones had holes in the bottom. After high school, I worked painting restaurants and refinishing furniture while I went to community college, then got a pell grant and a student loan to go to state university. I took the bus or rode a $500 street legal dirt bike with a cracked frame to work after I graduated. I was living in a small 3 bedroom house with 4 other roommates at the time (one of whom lived in the garage). I needed a few more university courses to get into a professional training program for my career. It took me a couple more years to complete those pre-reqs and each of those classes cost me about $1000, which was nearly all the money I could save up each year. Eventually, I got through the training program, obtained a professional license and was able to get a job which would, after about another 10 years of work and promotions, eventually become rather high paying.

    As you all have guessed, I'm over 40.

    I agree with you if you suggest that the system is rigged in favor of the rich and connected or that everything is fucked for people just entering the job market. But also, it's on you to figure it out.

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  • [+] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    fuck off selfish shitbag

    all full-time jobs should provide a living wage with benefits

    stop supporting corporate subsidies

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    no dipshit I know how things ‘are’

    it’s fucking disgusting and so are people like you supporting it

    as to the personal attacks lmao you know nothing about me but because I’m not a selfish asswad I must be poor? lolol

    people like you are a cancer to a better society

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can't tell if Jerry is laughing or crying...

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I managed a house by 30. The trick is to do everything you can to avoid contributing to capitalism. Contribute as little as possible when you have to.

    I cycle instead of owning a car, the tablet I am typing on was second hand, I cook every single meal from raw ingredients and I am starting to grow some of the more expensive ones so I don't even have to buy them.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My income is very close to the cost of rent here, and is less than the amount that house prices are increasing each year.

    Even if I save every cent of my income and somehow manage to live spending $0, I'm still getting further away from owning a house every year.

    You can't just budget your way to success.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I shared a house with others to keep rent low

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "and is less than the amount that house prices increase each year." and he didn't imply he was only talking about what's left of it after rent.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Inflation works to reduce the value of the debt over time. If you had a mortgage from 20 years ago you would be paying fuck all now compared to your income.

    I bought a house for ~£230k 2 years ago, if inflation continues as it did over the past 25 years that would be £440k in the next 25 years - quite a big assumption though but it gives you an idea there. However, in 2050 I will still be paying the mortgage of a £230k house because that is how much I borrowed, and my income will have increased by some amount as well.

    Yes wages are not keeping up with inflation, yes all billionaires should be hanged, but its still possible to get food and shelter. Don't give in to hopelessness. Don't give up just because something might be difficult.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Unfortunately this straight up just doesn't work in a lot of places

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  • The trick to owning a house by 30 is to build a Time Machine and go back 30 years.

    It’s just not possible now. I could put away %100 of my pay check and I don’t think it would cover mortgage. And downpayment? I don’t think I’ve ever been able to afford to save more than $500 before my finances collapse

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    As someone in their late 20s who just bought a house, I can attest that these little frugal tricks did help quite a bit.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    As someone in their early 40s who just bought a house, I can attest that having a well-paying job helps greatly and that watering down the shampoo leavings does not.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Also mid 40s and just bought my first house. 100% was the new job with significantly higher pay. None of my past efforts at frugality paid any dividends either.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    My partner is in her 30s, works 4 days as a school teacher, and just bought her first house in London. It's possible!

    (I don't need to add that I'm in tech and have a very convenient salary, since that's not at all related, right?)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Im in the process of buying my second house, much bigger on a nice chunk of land. I make good money nowadays but we absolutely 100% would not be able to afford anything at all if we didn't already own a house to sell. We bought it for $100k in 2021 from a grumpy old guy who wouldn't leave during showings and scared everyone off. Thankfully I grew up around grumpy old guys and he liked us enough.

    We're now selling that house for $230k, granted I also entirely rebuilt it the last 4 years and I think we could get more but I like the people buying it. We got lucky all the way through.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I started with a family business that underpaid me. Couldn't get ahead in my hometown city so i moved to another city with cheaper rents and housing costs. I eventually got a job where my work ethic and previous education and experience makes me almost irreplaceable. I used that as leverage with my boss to get paid a more competitive wage for my skill and responsibility level.

    Before i was employed or got my raises, saving every penny i could kept me afloat. I'd take my neighbors empty beer cans and return them if i noticed them in the bin. I had maybe a month or 2 of living expenses left when i finally found a job in my field. Had i not been frugal from the start i may have had to abandon my whole plan and move back home completely broke before i could land a job.

    Doing 1 frugal trick won't make a big difference. Applying a frugal mindset as often as you can will make a noticeable difference and can give you a little monetary boost to start getting ahead. For example if you have a little extra money, you can stock up on food during a sale. It requires more capital up front but you benefit from a cheaper price long term.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    care to share your line of work with the rest of the class?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I started in pool services now i work in residential water treatment. Working with wells, filters, and softeners to provide good quality water to rural residents and businesses. I'm unofficially on call and also the emergency help line for customers with equipment issues.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Where and how much money comes from you?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I pay 100% of the cost and i get it from my trades job that i put 50+ hours a week into. I have 15 years of experience in that trade (i did get lucky starting as a young teen but it did rob some of my youth).

    Its no mansion. Its over 70 years old and only 600 square feet but thats enough for me and I'm handy enough to fix most of the important stuff.

    I used frugal tricks while living in my apartment to save up and invest a little bit. I now use those tricks to keep costs down. Recently I've been doing research on how viable a clothesline in the winter will be.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A folding clothes horse inside the house where it is warm would be more effective, depending if it gets cold where you live.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Technically the heating of your house is now taking that hit to dry the clothes. My space is already tight and it already has high enough humidity from a wet crawlspace. People have used clotheslines in the winter for centuries, especially on a sunny day with a breeze clothes dry pretty well.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do you have a vapor barrier in the crawl space? Idk what you mean by wet but its probably fixable.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Its basically got a trench all around the inside that has water seeping in from the edges and the trenches go to a sump pump. Short term im planing on installing drainage pipe in the trench then concreting over it to reduce the water exposed to the air. Long term I'll eventually have to excavate around the house, install drainage, repair and reseal the foundation.

    I guess i could try to just install vapor barrier over the trench and it would have a similar effect.

    The crawlspace is closer to a short unfinished basement. I can stand between the joists in most places.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you have sitting water then you most definitely got mold. But if its like you described treat the mold replace insulation then vapor barrier on the joists and tape over seams. Its not a huge house so that all can be done in a weekend if you know what you're doing. But it really easy just a pain in the ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I want to install infloor heating so i was gonna insulate and vapor seal the main floor joists then. The walls and floor are a mix of concrete, bedrock, and cinderblocks. I'd have to install joists and insulate to vapor barrier it effectively. One of the trenches also cut diagonally to a drain line halfway along the crawlspace. I think the house started with about 1/3 of the the footprint crawlspace then was expanded later but I'm not really sure.

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