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It just happened that Trump discredited all previous US propaganda. So much resources invested to make the US look good, and it’s all gone.
yeah right. overseas.
This means they have already acquired this and are currently using it, and have been for years
We just have to accept that USA under Republicans is a hostile country, and try to take precautions.
I really resent the implication that democrats are any different in this respect.
They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.
Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.
Just don't pretend the Democratic Party aren't captured opposition. It's not a monolith, but the faction with power in the DNC are more interested in losing to the Republicans than letting the wrong people win.
I think they are scared little pussies who are afraid that if they let the left dominate the party, it will be a slippery slope to communism, and the American economy will collapse. The democrats fear change.
Despite clearly Social Democracy like Bernie or AOC is nothing of the sort. Denmark is mostly Social Democrat, and so are the other Scandinavian countries, and the freedom here is way above USA, and the wealth above what most comparable countries have achieved.
Now they got the Republicans doing in ½ a year, exactly what they feared the left might have done in 20.
they believe in
democracytheir own power, theydon’t undermine alliesalso support genocide, they don’tplan to take health caredo shit to provide public healthcare
Ok but when did I ever say that they are equally bad or anything of the like? I said very specifically “the democrats are not any better in this respect”.
In this respect.
Once more: In this respect.
Reading comprehension.
Also partisanship of any kind is disgusting. Thats the real problem in American politics, the abhorrent tribalism fed by the two party system. No progress will happen while you continue to feed this system because both sides are not willing to solve the underlying root issues. Both just want to put bandaids on problems and continue to preserve their power. If the democrats know they will always have your vote no matter what, they have no reason to fix any issues. Which is why for the past few decades they have solved jack shit. So vote democrat but just like MAGA isn’t afraid to vote out their so called RINOs you should not be afraid to put a boot in the ass of democrats that only serve corporate interests.
Republicans are absolutely worse ESPECIALLY in this respect, which was USA being a hostile country now.
This especially goes towards allies, which we considered ourselves to be, since I'm from the EU. But Trump has treated every single fucking ally as if they were the enemy of USA.
All the things he does, are exactly the same a Russian asset under Putin would do.
Clearly trust with allies improved greatly under Obama and Biden, and deteriorated under Bush and Trump.
Problem is that with Trump 2, I'm not sure there's a way back anymore.
So you repeat your stupid mantra like a child as much as you want , the lack of comprehension is clearly on your side.
The best US propaganda has always been the arts. Music, movies, literature and games. Replace it with AI and you get the type of slopaganda that doesn‘t really work. Especially since everyone can do it. The USA is just paving it‘s way further into irrelevancy.
Not really. The best US propaganda has always been looking strong, rich and real, if too glossy. Also being too different (it doesn't stop to surprise me how people speaking English can be so different from British people that honestly I, living in Russia, feel more similar to the latter than Americans are ; and nobody notices that from culture and arts, it takes being exposed to many real Americans to see that this is not just in movies), thus seeming some magical other world where the impossible is possible.
(Plus a bit of the legacy of "give me your tired ..." and "the new world" seeming like a place for those fleeing tyranny, like some new normal free life out there, even if not perfect ; it's fascinating how this image hasn't been true for more than 50 years, yet it lives on in books which much of the humanity still reads, and is perceived like real. This stopped being true when my grandma was younger than I am now.)
Also the lame anti-US propaganda had an effect of people subjected to it being ready to believe anything opposing it. Like much of Soviet propaganda about the West was honestly true, but it took another 20 years for the majority of ex-Soviet people to understand that, after they understood that Western propaganda about USSR was true as well.
While the arts working like that are a short period which coincided with a short explosion of the level of life in the West (followed by it falling again), decaying of the second world, loss of faith into any kind of bright future and socialism, thus turning to the past (things like "the American dream", memory of times when USA was half the world GDP, trying to find good and nice in the stereotypical, demonized in the past, images).
And - important - the Internet, where the famous "network effect" works, and what is the network effect? The network effect means that the one starting something gets all the sprouts. 1 man creates a network and invites 99 people, each with their own culture, but in the network the culture of that 1 man will dominate, because they will come to that one man.
The conclusion is the same, though, poisoning the Internet with slop means slowly killing it. And slop is the opposite of what made the USA seem strong. It was "real" vs "fake".
Soviet industries were "fake" - lots of stuff broken fresh from the factory, requiring some tinkering to make it work ; Soviet computers were "fake" - other than the previous point, rare and expensive, and a household didn't have one ; Soviet economy was "fake" - imitating a real one with "funds" and "wooden" rubles, while having deficits ; Soviet politics were "fake" - one party, and in any democratic procedure if you'd diverge from the commonly accepted line, you'd have social problems (reminds you of anything?) ; Soviet ideology was "fake" - look, we've been building space communism for 30 years, and the result is that we have ICBMs and "Pravda" newspapers and canned "sea cabbage" in stores and Lenin worship, but don't have normal toilet paper, sausages and jeans, and notably - no space communism ; and even Soviet culture was "fake" - those sour tones, that stoneface acting, that boredom, while there in the West they have rock-n-roll and action movies and magazines with naked women.
And the USA most of all seemed "how a superpower should really be", except look at it now. It still is stronger, but it's undergoing a similar transformation as the USSR, and the problem is that USA's civilization offering was that it's immune to that. And the USSR was internationalist, while the USA's even official offering is "we are your masters and better than you, fuck you little bitch, and if you behave very well you might immigrate here in the future". Somehow Soviet people thought USA was internationalist too, but the Internet broke that for most of the planet.
And it didn't colonize Mars. And it didn't unite the humanity in one republic with everyone equal in rights. And it didn't fix war, hunger and barbarism. So just like USSR's promise of space communism expiring, USA's promise of space liberal capitalism expires now.
Basically USA's elites were not content with the amount of power they had over their country and the world, and decided to expand it (via the Internet), thus removing their main strength.
Lastly propaganda campaigns is something that was best done with the old kind of connectivity, when they only had to influence the adversarial regimes (Soviet elites, for example), and those regimes would then influence their own population ; in the USSR the rosy picture of the USA was most of all produced by its elites trying to copy the USA or to get a piece of it in the form of jeans etc. The people who are going to design\train\direct the tools for these campaigns simply can't understand all the complexity of another culture, to influence people living in it. They are deliberately choosing a far more complex task, when the easier one yielded good enough results. In the hope of achieving some sort of world domination by a shortcut instead of, well, fixing their economy and doing it the old-fashioned way.
What is wrong with using the best of psychological warfare to manipulate people? - A question the US government never asked.
Imagine a maddening voice
coming out of the sockets in your house
the only way it will ever stop
is to go scorched earth
and you find a way that isn't violent,
not nukes, not viruses just something unanticipated
something you can't even point a gun at and destroy
that makes "it" all end somehow
Surprised this isn't already a thing. Any mainstream social network is very very soon going to be completely useless for political discourse.
WW3 be like:

Well, it worked so well on the home front, why not export it? At least in other countries in my observation, for the most part, the population pretty much knows it's bs. They do not speak out for fear of harm or death. However, here in the US, average citizens don't even blink. It's gobbled up and regurgitated ad nauseam. Then, to seal this in the hearts and minds of America, they label those who would exercise their rights as an American citizen: ultra paranoid, schizophrenic, perhaps a bit mental. The American propaganda machine has no equals.
Of course. Why let Russia and China have the monopoly on making the world a worse place.
US joining other auth states like Russia and China.
Not suprising.
Here’s a non walled mirror of the article. https://removepaywalls.com/https://theintercept.com/2025/08/25/pentagon-military-ai-propaganda-influence/
Yeah, and I'm sure it will only be used overseas. Not that either is ok...
Face it - they're ALL gonna do it. You thought Trump was the "post-truth" era?!? Just you wait.
Humanity is doomed thanks to the control freaks.
Media already does this. CIA already uses democracy to ensure rulership, and loyal political leaders of all parties. Everyone thinks that voting can change anything, but it would be illegal if true. Just this past year, Under Biden, it was vital western/CIA strategic interest to have NGOs in Georgia before election, and to bribe narco terrorist groups in Venezuela, with full Western leaders support, to pretend elections were invalid.
We continue to praise our freedom despite the extreme programming of elections.
I mean, the sheer irony of you claiming democracy is fake in an article complaining about how more and more propaganda is trying to make people believe democracy is fake.
If democracy is fake then why do we count votes. Why do authoritarian fake votes and countries like France and the US don't fake votes?
You can have carrot and stick diplomacy to pressure other leaders and even entire sovereign countries without completely overthrowing their election system.
If democracy is fake then why do we count votes. Why do authoritarian fake votes and countries like France and the US don’t fake votes?
That is CIA propaganda. US definitely suppresses voters, and voter registration/eligibility. All the money and zionist media, and Zionazi first DNC who exist to "gaslight the left into supporting Israel", but are perfectly happy if candidate the least "unencumbered to finish the job of genocide" is elected, is a similar corruption to CIA allegiant democracy in NATO. You are told that the other countries fake their votes with 0 evidence, and you just choose to believe that because CIA/State department are the "good guys" who love you and would never lie to you or manufacture propaganda for warmongering purposes. Domino theory that has existed since Korean war (anti democracy initiative to prevent North winning election to unify Korea) and whose absurdity exists today with "Russia will invade rest of peaceful loving Europe if Ukraine falls, and China will be emboldened to invade Taiwan if we don't spend another $200B on Ukraine suicidal diminishment of Russia" is an obvious platform for any and all lies to achieve the demonic propaganda goals.
The humanist outlook on the world is "Hey, Russia or Chinese government structure is not what we prefer. We won't copy them." instead of everyone must submit or be destroyed.
You can have carrot and stick diplomacy to pressure other leaders and even entire sovereign countries without completely overthrowing their election system.
Exactly. Subhuman demonic evil is needed to subjugate humans. Hasbara that these are democratic ideals is part of the demonic evil.
Dawg, I'm sorry but you just are completely out of the realm of objective fact here.
US definitely suppresses voters, and voter registration/eligibility. All the money and zionist media, and Zionazi first DNC who exist to "gaslight the left into supporting Israel", but are perfectly happy if candidate the least "unencumbered to finish the job of genocide" is elected
I didn't say the US was a perfect democracy, or that there isn't voter suppression. I'm saying that votes are counted correctly in the US, and the results of any federal election in the US is the person who received the winning distribution of votes.
There are statistical models for detecting ballot stuffing, and many countries have very robust vote counting systems. Additionally, many independent sources poll voting booths and their numbers are often very close to the official results.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Abmm85aqeWk
https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/another-successful-uk-exit-poll-ipsos
Votes are counted accurately in western countries, there is no evidence of ballot stuffing.
If there was evidence of ballot stuffing, wouldn't at least one journalism site tell everyone about it?
You are told that the other countries fake their votes with 0 evidence
There is overwhelming evidence for dictators like Lukashanka and Putin faking elections.
One consolidation of election fraud attempts in Belarus 2020:
https://apnews.com/article/international-news-ap-top-news-europe-72e43a8b9e4c56362d4c1d6393bd54fb
Another consolidation of election fraud reports in Belarus 2019:
https://crd.org/2019/11/22/opposition-wins-no-seats-in-belarus-election/
Russia bans international vote counters from participating in Russian elections:
https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/russia/564329
Multiple sources on Wikipedia have used statistical analysis to show evidence of ballot stuffing:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Russian_legislative_election
You just choose to believe that because CIA/State department are the "good guys" who love you and would never lie to you or manufacture propaganda for warmongering purposes. Domino theory that has existed since Korean war (anti democracy initiative to prevent North winning election to unify Korea) and whose absurdity exists today with "Russia will invade rest of peaceful loving Europe if Ukraine falls, and China will be emboldened to invade Taiwan if we don't spend another $200B on Ukraine suicidal diminishment of Russia" is an obvious platform for any and all lies to achieve the demonic propaganda goals.
Even if all of this was true, and you're OK with treating Finns, Ukrainians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, and Taiwanese as NPCs who are brainwashed by the CIA: That doesn't mean democracy is fake! There are plenty of current and historical imperialist democracies, look at the US, look at the UK, look at France, look at Nazi Germany, look at Italy, look at basically all of Europe in the 1920s, look at Israel. Just because a state is doing evil things, doesn't mean that a plurality of people in that country don't support doing those evil things.
The humanist outlook on the world is "Hey, Russia or Chinese government structure is not what we prefer. We won't copy them." instead of everyone must submit or be destroyed.
Nobody has proposed destroying the current Russian, PRC, or US regimes. Peaceful resistence to their anti-democratic propaganda and their imperialism is mandatory as an ethical humanist.
Exactly. Subhuman demonic evil is needed to subjugate humans. Hasbara that these are democratic ideals is part of the demonic evil.
I didn't say that coercive deplomacy has anything to do with democratic idels, just that it is a necessary tool for liberal states and societies to respond to the paradox of tolerance.
If there was evidence of ballot stuffing, wouldn’t at least one journalism site tell everyone about it?
There is. There used to be easier to find google link with sources, but srubbed. Still found: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/ This is without Trump's praise of Musk's work on "voting machines". The DNC won because the most pro Israel candidate/party controls everything. All that matters to them.
Just because a state is doing evil things, doesn’t mean that a plurality of people in that country don’t support doing those evil things.
Money and media programming results. Extremely rare for evil to be the core election platform. Just that after winning, there is only money for evil. None for rest of agenda.
necessary tool for liberal states and societies to respond to the paradox of tolerance.
Hillarious. Countries that need to protect themselves from above evil can have the candidate committed to country's survival have a large democratic majority vote victory over the traitorous CIA stooge bribed to diminish the country. There is not the "one journalist uncovering fraud" basis for questioning the election. Just CIA/US state department declaring without evidence that only CIA traitor candidate victory would have been valid. Boris Yeltsin was great friendly Russia leader because he was a corrupt CIA stooge selling everything cheap to western financed interests.
It’s good that this is discovered and exposed, though who wasn’t already 100% sure of this years ago? I’m sure they’ve run multiple pilot projects already, and I’ll bet money that one or more are “in production” today.
It's a bad thing, but maybe it could combat some of the russian bots.
Obviously it would be bad if the bots on both sides agreed on something bad.
I guess the tool depends on the user
They should have been doing this a decade ago. Russia, China, and India currently are, and I fully believe that's how we ended up here.
We absolutely need to be running offense in foreign social media, governments, etc
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