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[–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

They are so obviously and transparently bullshitting us and the west is NOT CALLING THEM OUT ON THEIR BULLSHIT ffs, this is blood-boiling to say the least!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is it really the media at this point or is just that anyone with power is owned

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Regardless of the content of the article.

    I want to remind people that the Middle East Eye is directly run by the Qatari Embassy in London:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/close-al-jazeera-saudi-arabia-issues-qatar-with-13-demands-to-end-blockade

    When Saudi Arabia and the UAE blockaded Qatar, the Middle East Eye started hitting them 24/7.

    Another thing suspicious is the absence of revenue.

    Around the world, newspapers fund themselves in 3 different ways :

    • Advertising
    • Subscriptions
    • Donations

    The Middle East Eye has no advertising. It has no subscriptions. And they don't ask for donations.

    I have never seen anything like this. How do they fund themselves...?!

    Again, this is NOT an attack on the content. But people should simply know this is a state-run newspaper.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are you going to remind us again when someone posts a BBC or PBS or NPR article?

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Are you going to remind us again when someone posts a BBC or PBS or NPR article?

    Why would I do that?

    They are transparent about their sources of funding:

    https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finances

    https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/reports/

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago

    Your article doesn't provide any evidence or your claim. Nor does it debunk the article itself.

    It would be very cool if Qatar was the only country doing actual journalism about Gaza, but from my reading of MEE I severely doubt it's Qatar running the operation.

    MEE writes plenty of critical reports about Qatar. They do almost always go very soft on one specific country though. And it's not the one you named.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    Yes yes, but what kind of framing is

    the day Hamas and other groups broke out of their Gaza prison camp, spreading carnage, following 17 years of a brutal siege.

    Sounds like an excuse to a terror attack with almost exclusively civilian targets. Why is it so hard for advocates of the Palestinian cause to condemn this attack??

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    You mean> 90% military targets according to Western standards, of which more than 33% on active military duty?

    Just look at the West Bank and find out what non violent resistance leads to.

    You must not be used to being provided with the actual context of October 7. Very shocking to learn that Palestinians were actually in a concentration camp for 17 years and broke out. I wonder why that part of the both sides story never gets reported.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Why did they attack the music festival?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Because the music festival was in between the path to military base and should have already ended by that day.

    Why did they attack more than 5 military bases around Gaza responsible for their concentration camp you ask? Or did the Western media not tell you about that?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They could have walked around it. The festival wasn’t the only massacre of civilians that day. This was not a military maneuver, it was directly targeted at civilians, specifically women and Jews.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    That doesn't justify attacking civilians, just like the attack on the music festival doesn't justify Israel attacking civilians.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yes, it totally does since every Israeli is a military citizen from my understanding

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Mandatory military service is a shitty excuse to kill civilians.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    military service is mandatory for most Jewish Israelis. So yeah, buddy, I was right, stop trying to fucking gaslight people online, Israel is paying you enough?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Condemn the genocide and 57 years of occupation. Explaining the circonstences thst let to the creation and the rise of hamas is not hamas apologism

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No it‘s not, but calling a terrorist attack that targeted explicitly civilians „spreading carnage“ is.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That’s nonsense. It’s like thinking that mentioning Nat Turner’s revolt—where children were killed—because slave owners had been oppressing enslaved people is somehow an apology for killing innocent people

    Also i am waiting for you to condemn 77 years of oppressing Palestinians and 57 years of occupying Gaza and the west bank. You don't seem to have an issue when 7 of October is always mentioned when talking about the genocide

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    Actual journalists won't say someone is a murderer even if there's a video of the person shooting a guy pulling out their ID and showing it to the camera and say "my name is ___ and I murdered this person".

    When the person is charged then they will be termed "alleged murderer". Before there's charges they're termed something like "shooter" not murderer. Only once someone is convicted of the crime will they be called "murderer".

    Genocide is a much greater crime than murder. It's not responsible journalism to make accusations like this. If a body like the ICJ convicted Israel's leadership on charges, or maybe id the country the media organization is based in made a declaration, then a journalist will start using the word genocide.

    "Alternative media" have no journalistic standards and will say such things to lead their audiences to conclusions. If you're reading articles that are telling you how to think about a story, it's not actually journalism. Real journalism is about telling people what's happening, not telling people how they're supposed to think about, and definitely not about making accusations in an effort support activist causes.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Western media took two ongoing genocides. Committed by Israel and Russia. And swept both under the rug under a wave of contrarian bullshit

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Who the fuck is "we" in this instance?

    No one with a single functioning braincell heard "There are no unaffiliated civilians" and didn't know exactly what was coming.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    And yet all of these media outlets will continue to be treated as reputable and honest by Westerners

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