so now proton completely blocking account creation through their onion adress? I have standard protection, javascript enabled. Time to swith for those who use this service as they are ditching tor and switzerland?

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[+] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] [S] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have tried a new circuite before publish this post - without success. but considering that I use their onion adress they could nit see my tor exit node as far as I now, anyway.

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  • [+] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
  • Yeah, I've had to go through 20 or 30 circuits once to make Google's captcha allow me through. It just failed with the message "Unusual traffic from your computer network". Someone was probably running a botnet, as this only happens rarely. If Google wanted to block Tor, they'd have done so by now anyway.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What makes you think this has anything to do with Tor?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Because i can easely create account on clearnet

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What else should be tested? I think this guy deserves praise for his methods

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Definitely a lot more than that should be tested before declaring they're "ditching Tor". If that's what they were doing this site wouldn't even exist.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I remember when they had an onion domain and the signup button would redirect you to the clearnet page for signup. Afaik it also did that bullshit at some other places. So I wouldn't be surprised.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    what purpose of the site if you cant use it for registration? regarding your notice reddit has onion site too for example but after I cant login to my account after sign up too... facebook has onion site too but if you sign up through onion site they will restrict your account and ask for id.. So maybe its not something that important?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I previously commented I would write the support, now I actually read the docs first and found out why:

    If you want to create an account over tor you can, just not via the clearnet URL, probably due to rate limiting by IP adress. However if you use their Onion Link as specified in this article by their support (https://proton.me/support/tor-setup) it works just fine (as far as I just tested). So great! Because using .onion services is far more secure than accessing clearnet over Tor anyway.

    Here the url, verify it with the link in the support article tho: https://protonmailrmez3lotccipshtkleegetolb73fuirgj7r4o4vfu7ozyd.onion/

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Have you actually asked proton support about this issue, if so what have they said?

    It seems like you got frustrated and instead of trying to get help you decided to complain on lemmy.

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Hi, they have average response time 1 month. Probably it'is not useful when you want create account now, yes? "instead of trying to get help you decided to complain on lemmy" and what? proton blocked tor, it is their decision, it is not a bug. I have my other email provider so I do not need to beg proton to unblock tor registration. My objective was to inform lemmy users about this, I did not ask for help in my post as you noticed. If proton company is interested in their customers they can monitor such complaints but since they "cut their presence" on mastodon and opensource media platforms it will not happen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    The average response time is nowhere near a month.

    It seems more and more this was a bad faith post. I'm not sure I believe you even use proton.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Look, for me it is not important if you believe me or not. I dont beg yout to ditch protonmail

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You say that and yet you feel the need to respond and down vote.

    If you didn't care about what others thought you wouldn't have made the post.

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just lets dont play Hannibal Lecter's dialogue and stop conversation.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Just tested it, same here. Clearnet works but tor not. I will contact support since part of the reason I like to pay for unlimited is to subsidize free, anonymous accounts.

    Edit: here is my other comment:

    I previously commented I would write the support, now I actually read the docs first and found out why:

    If you want to create an account over tor you can, just not via the clearnet URL, probably due to rate limiting by IP adress. However if you use their Onion Link as specified in this article by their support (https://proton.me/support/tor-setup) it works just fine (as far as I just tested). So great! Because using .onion services is far more secure than accessing clearnet over Tor anyway.

    Here the url, verify it with the link in the support article tho: https://protonmailrmez3lotccipshtkleegetolb73fuirgj7r4o4vfu7ozyd.onion/

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago

    Okay, if they will responder faster than in one month you could publish the respond here if you will like to do it. But I am surr they will say it is a "technical error". Every privacy leak now is described as technical error - apple, google, meta - all use this therm to justify their intentional action

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    A while back I tried to create an account with vpn and got notice that said something about how I couldn’t use it to validate other accounts without validating that account because other companies had threatened to label them as untrustworthy or spam.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I got that same error when I was setting up my account.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Does anybody know valid alternatives to proton mail, I think they have been enshitified

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    There is a relatively small number of shared Tor exit node IP addresses.

    So it’s more likely using Tor will trigger “too many attempts for IP” throttling for any service with bot protection.

    It’s nothing against Tor, but is an expected side-affect of attempting to be anonymous by sharing the same IP address with many people.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I use posteo.de provider, it costs 1 eur for month, 3 adress, they have inbound encryption of emails as proton, also they dont accept crypto but you can pay by cash and card and "All of our payment methods are anonymised using a payment system developed by Posteo. We do not link payment information with email accounts." You can learn more about their privacy features on their site https://posteo.de/en/site/features#featuresprivacy

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Why are you trying to sign up for Proton if you already use another provider?

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    how this question is relate to my post about proton blocks registration through their onion site? sorry but I only interested in respond questions directly associated with this or other email providers. my decision to try proton as additional service should not be the problem...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Seems a fair question to ask someone who makes a post to direct people away from a service under the presumption that they were trying to use it, only to find in the comments that they already use a different service that they not only enjoy, but are happy to freely advertise for.

    Also, your justification for their lack of crypto payments is that they use a payment system they designed themselves, which I find funny since most of the complaints I see about Proton (granted, not yours) is the unverifiability of their operations, leaning on "Just trust me, bro." which is the same thing as this site's payment processing system. 🤭

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it's not a fair question people can use multiple email providers, especially a privacy conscious person would know that. proton logs your ip and gives it to the police when they ask, without warrent

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Did you have so much free time to criticise me unstead of doing something important? Such a good decision.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Instead of being so defensive about it you could just answer the question.. Did you have so much free time you decided to try signing up for a service you had no intention of using just so you could complain about it?

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
    1. You don't know if I signed up for posteo after or before tryibg with proton.

    2. You are blocked now for offrnsive behaviour and insinuations about me.

    Have a good day bro, LOL

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    While on dread recently I stumbled across this old post regarding issues with their onion adresses https://encryp.ch/blog/disturbing-facts-about-protonmail/

    When a user makes a new account with Protonmail on TOR they are re-directed from Protonmail’s “.onion” to “.com” address. This breaks your secure encrypted connection to their onion address, enabling your identification. There are absolutely no technical reasons for this feature. In fact, the only other websites that operate like this are suspected NSA/CIA Honeypots.

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