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[–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah should have been done a long time ago, but Canada had to wait to see what everyone else is doing first.

    Shame on all governments and world leaders for allowing and in some cases assisting in this tragedy.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    And then what?

    Let's say everyone in the world except the US recognizes the Palestinian state. Would that change literally anything at all?

    Meanwhile, Canada continues to send weapons to Israel.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    For the children dying of starvation and bombs right now? Not much of a difference.

    For recognition that their suffering is unjust? Huge difference.

    If anyone is sarcastic about Canada, France or any other nations about this issue and criticizing them about the lack of support , I sure hope as fuck that you put your money and your votes where your mouth is wherever you are located.

    Ffs, Palestinians, including farmers, inventors, and just general lovely folk have not had anywhere to turn for ages. Now there will be a generation of serious nourishment deprivation, where said they survive they will likely be diminished and devalued because of Israel imposing starvation and trauma upon them.

    Any support now is critical, and empty words of support are unfortunately more than the sheer genocide of both bodies and minds that is happening now.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Empty words of support work to demobilize the masses. Canadians see this and think things are going to be okay.

    People need to understand that their government is still killing Palestinians.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I 100% agree with you. We can say "yay good job government" bit then we need to keep our eyes on them, our voices loud, and make sure those words are followed by actions.

    Keep making noise for Gaza, this fight is not over. I wont forget the government's complicity in all of this, but they can still make the better choice now.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I love that everyone's recognizing it the second that 99% of the people there are going to die of starvation because its already at the point that its irreversible

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Just in time for checks watch a decade or two (if not three) after any hope of a viable two state solution has been thoroughly proven impossible by the actions of the West's favorite fascist apartheid regime.

    If you think that being an officially recognized country would protect Palestinians from being oppressed and massacred by Israel, I have some oceanfront condominiums in the Golan Heights to sell you.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was gonna ask what took them so long…but then I wondered what the catch was.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    yea, disarming Hamas is just gonna take away what little armed resistance Palestinians had

    in other words, canada is using an overdue noble gesture (Palestinian recognition) as a way to help israel further its genocide. it’s sickening

    settlers of a feather flocking together

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Nice to know that it only takes billions of dollars worth of tariffs for the country of Canada to act ..... or 50,000 dead people that didn't have to die, as well as tens of thousands more that are near starving to death.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    In addition to recognizing Palestine, all countries should drop recognition of Israel and recognise the presence of Israelis in Palestine as being illegitimate.

    The Israelis will cry about anti-semitism, but I think more and more people in the world recognize this trick and are not going to buy it.

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    It won't happen , hamas with not drop arms

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Finally someone read the article.

    Canada said its recognition is "predicated on the Palestinian Authority's commitment to much-needed reforms, including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President [Mahmoud] Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state."

    Hamas must also immediately release all hostages taken in the Oct. 7, 2023, terror attacks on Israel, disarm and "play no role in the future governance of Palestine," Carney reiterated.

    lol. Yeah,the chances of all that happening? Nil. I do think would likely be a move in the right direction, but it will not happen. This is basically an attempt to blame-shift.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So I am wondering what effect does recognizing it as a state have? To me it sounds like the whole "thoughts and prayers" thing but admittedly I have no idea what it actually means.

    Could some smarty pants bring me up to speed?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Disclaimer: am not smart

    Well, apart from a meaningless political song and dance, my theory is that it's more of an announcement that they're willing to oppose Israel by recognising Palestine, something the Netanyahu's administration do not want. Partially because Israel has spent the last 77 years of its existence telling its people that what we see as Palestine is, in fact, all Israel, and always has been.

    The countries are too fucking weak to stop the cruelty or say no to Israel, and this is the best they can do. It's essentially the governments saying they'll step up, and looking around to see if the other classmates look like they're also going to, so they won't be alone. As if Israel is a Goliath.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That came with a lot of asterisks from Carney. It's conditional. Remember that he is a Conservative wearing a Liberal hat.

    "This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms, including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state. Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.

    We reiterate that Hamas must immediately release all hostages taken in the horrific terrorist attack of October 7; that Hamas must disarm; and that Hamas must play no role in the future governance of Palestine. Canada will always steadfastly support Israel’s existence as an independent state in the Middle East living in peace and security. Any path to lasting peace for Israel also requires a viable and stable Palestinian state, and one that recognizes Israel’s inalienable right to security and peace."

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    https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2025/07/30/statement-prime-minister-carney-canadas-recognition-palestinian-state

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And trump wants to stop trade negotiations with Canada over this because if you don't double thumbs up a genocide, Trump won't talk to you

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    But make sure not to vote for Genocide Joe!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    There is nothing uplifting about it.

    This is just a delaying technique to avoid sanctioning Israel due to public pressure, meant to let Israel finish executing their "Final Solution for Gaza", by which point they will pivot to saying "it's too late now".

    If you read the article you'll see this "initiative" was launched by the UK PM, the very guy who has been getting people arrested for planning to demonstrated against the Genocide, so one should be incredibly suspicious (and, being familiar with British politics, the whole thing reeks of their usual "delay meaningful action by offering vague promises of future meaningless action").

    Also all 3 countries still send weapons to Israel, Canada doing in the most hypocritical of ways by having a weapons export regime that says "no" riddled with backdoors so it ends up as "yes" - yet another very common tactic in British politics which one could describe as "the contents is not what it says on the box".

    This way of delaying the meaningful action being pushed by public opinion is a very common technique in British politics, and during his years there heading the Bank Of England (a very political position) Mr. Carney is sure to have learned it.

    Uplifting news will when there are actual sanctions against Israel in place.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    this is kinda just orphan crushing machine, why the fuck do they PLAN to recognize palestine? yeah great let's start vaguely considering it after the population has been bombed to shit and starved to death for half a fucking decade, they're so kind

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