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[–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

It's time to reopen the tower of London. You missed Farage and some other Nazis.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Fuck Keir Starmer

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Hows Flyingsquid doing over there in England? Haven't seen him in a long while and didn't he move there to escape shit like this?

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    Yo britishes, how's it going?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Astonishing this kind of fascist action can take place under a labour government

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Today's Labour is a kind of conservative party.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would like the conservative party to be the conservative party and the labour party to be the labour party :(

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago*

    So would a lot of people, and there was a chance of that with Jeremy Corbyn until the right-wingers in Labour stabbed him in the back with the help of the Tories and all of the media. They are terrified of workers figuring out where their real interests lie.

    Interesting to read yesterday that Corbyn is forming a new party. It's a big mountain to climb and he's no spring chicken, but if it's done right the UK could once again have a party true to Labour's original principles.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The Labour Party is just a mainstream party from a system with First Past The Post (where power is pretty much a doupoly) which was captured and the ideology of those who captured it isn't even left of center.

    Remember that not that long ago they were purging Leftwingers in that party.

    They're Neoliberals so far to the Right that they're actively supporting a foreign ethno-Fascist regime committing a Genocide along ethnic lines now entering a Holocaust phase, and do so using authoritarian measures against the population of their own country, all of this whilst wearing a Labour Party suit.

    I lived in Britain for over a decade until a little after the Leave Referendum and kept track of British politics for a while after that, and this surprises me not one bit after the style and nature of the coup against Jeremy Corbyn done by the very people now in Government there.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Why has liberal-ruled Britain become attack dogs for Israel?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Britain was never liberal.

    The very same people harping about "gay rights" would also be writing scatting opinion articles against something or other they believe was a moral perversion (for example, men who used sex dolls) with not the least bit self-awareness about how those articles were very much like those that used to be written against homosexuality, just with a different group being targeted.

    The middle class in that place is big on doing what is fashionable and makes them look good socially (keeping up with appearances) which means certain minorities which are now fashionable to support get a lot of loud, performative support, but those actions are seldom driven by actual Principles about Freedom (quite the contrary, the place is big on people "knowing their place" and has a ton of laws meant to silence and push-back on those who are loudly contrarians outside a few "permitted" domains).

    Having lived in a couple of places in Europe, including Britain and The Netherlands, in my opinion Britain is actually unusually conservative for an European country.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So much for "liberal" government.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Well, it's American-style "liberal": hard neoliberal with some of performative (rather than principled) moral liberalism.

    It's definitely not Liberal in the sense of taking a principled stance for people's freedom, as made painfully obvious by what they're doing against anti-Genocide protestors.

    I would even say they're more towards the Authoritarian side than the Liberal one.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Money says AIPAC money bought their politicians like they have in America. If I could wipe any organization off the Earth, AIPAC would be right behind Fox News. Fucking poison.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I just don't get how AIPAC has so much leverage over the US

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lobbyists spend very little money to catch political ears. Look into it! I have. Stunning that a major company can drop $20,000 in pocket change and get in their pants.

    AIPIC has got extra juice! Since WWII, being branded an anti-Semite is political poison. They don't have to spend much money, just tell the pol, "Do as I say or we go scorched Earth on your happy ass!" Works. FFS, we have video and images of Israel actively committing genocide, murdering woman and children and people trying to get food. And what are the headlines? "$group warns of genocide!" "$group warns of mass starvation!" You mean shit that's already happening YESTERDAY?!

    Try saying anything negative, in any way, in any venue, use the word Jew. You will be excoriated and banned. Notice how every single post here makes certain to make the distinction between "Jew" and "Zionist"? I mean, it's true, preaching to the choir guys, but the eggshell fire-walking is kinda nuts. And Jews don't seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.

    Not being snarky, I'm actually afraid to use the word, anywhere. That's how deep the insanity goes. Watch me catch a ban for saying I'm uncomfortable using "Jew", in any context. Watch 12 people explain that Jews are not necessarily Zionists. I GET that. But someone will comment!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    (can't edit my own posts)

    For context, I'm a 54yo atheist and had always supported Israel. Poor underdogs! Nah. Now Israel is the Third Reich, and fuck them, all of their supporters.

    Sickening how we have to repeat history every time our grandparents die out.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago*

    And Jews don’t seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.

    Maybe I'm the commenter you're looking for, but this seems like an overgeneralization. I have several Jewish friends who are under no illusions about Israel, and who are quite clear about how Netanyahu and his ilk are consciously and cynically fueling antisemitism, not least by throwing around accusations if it against anyone who criticizes the genocide they are perpetrating. So saying "Jews don't seem to have [any] clue" feels heavy-handed.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Labour had to defend themselves against anti-semitism claims for years (usually from extremely low level Muslim councillors), so now they're going the other way entirely. And Tories aren't going to get in the way of that, because they fucking love cruelty.

    But the next prime minister of the UK is going to be the one who promises to bring back all the free porn, so we don't have to ask for permission to have a wank to take our mind off everything.

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  • Because liberalism is a hypocritical ideology.

    The USA built itself off genocide and colonialism and has spent the last three centuries expanding its empire to every continent (and has long-since been an attack dog for Israel).

    France endorsed liberty, equality, and fraternity at home and horrors abroad in Haiti and Algeria.

    To the credit of the Liberal Party, they were much less imperialist than the Whigs they derived from or Tories. This is not to say that they were truly opposed to imperialism. Cecil Rhodes was a Liberal.

    In all of these cases, the colonial adventures did not occur despite liberalism but were justified by it. We must bring enlightened civilization to the savages, you see. Locke and Mill, two foundational British figures of liberalism, were both supporters of colonialism.

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    [–] 26 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    If you're arresting 80 year olds in their home for protesting you are NOT the good guys.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    She was arrested at the scene. She was then held for 27 hours, and during that time police searched her home.

    I think she was the one holding a sign that read something like "Protect Palestine. Action is needed now" Palestine and Action were on separate lines, and she argued with police that there was a full stop between the words.

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    This isn't about Jews, it's about the military industrial complex.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    They could be anything else. That would not change situation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    You were talking about Jews. Jews are not, in general, committing a crime.

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    Them being Jews is irrelevant. They could be Israeli Jedi knights for all I care.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Under the Terrorism Act the friends face a maximum sentence of 14 years in prison. Sorrell said: “I just feel if I’m put in prison for this, and even if I die in prison for this, I can’t think of a better thing to die for really than for the justice of the people who’ve been persecuted now for almost my lifetime.”

    Godsdamn this woman is a hero.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Goddamn UK, what the fuck are you doing? You’re as bad as us!

    Well, okay not that bad. But still. Bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I can't wait until we have our 3rd dumb fuck vote, after Brexit and Boris, and vote in Nigel Farage. Then the US will go "Hold my beer" and go for Trump for a 3rd time.

    The one connecting factor in all this is the Cambridge Analytica style of influencing and stealing elections.

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  • [+] -19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Alternative way of writing the headline: "OAP intentionally walks up to police with a sign saying I AM A TERRORIST and is then surprised when she gets treated as a terrorist".

    You can argue whether or not Palestine Action should have been proscribed or not, but it did happen and the government made it abundantly clear what that proscription means for anyone continuing to show support for them.

    Maybe she wanted to make the point that the group shouldn't have been banned (in fact I'm sure that's the point she wanted to make) but surely she didn't think Keir Starmer was going to go "oh my god you know what, you're right, I'll do yet another U-turn because of this old lady".

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    You are right, but also I doubt she was expecting her protesting to directly change anyone in power's mind. The tactic is obviously to keep doing this with people who are very media friendly (little old grannies and the like) so stories keep getting into the papers of "lovely person arrested for protesting!" which does put pressure on the government.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Isn't she the one who held up a sign saying something like "Protect Palestine. Action is needed now."? It's a bit convoluted to say that was support for the group Palestine Action, and that arrest, search, and home curfew for several months is an appropriate response.

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