For cybersecurity, “red team” and penetration testing; frontier models sell the hacking capability as a service, and refuse it to the normal models.

Using the normal models for Dungeons & Dragons style roleplaying, they sometimes refuse things. It has been a while, but generating characters with a dark background story was impossible with ChatGPT back then, for example.

Actually, yes.

It's been my experience in using models from DavidAU that the abliterated ones seem much less concerned about finding the one perfect, satisfy all requirements answer, when there's a "good enough" solution.

The reason that matters is that in the earlier qwen models, trying to find a perfect solution would often cause loops, whereas a good enough solution would be good enough.

That can come in useful in all sorts of logic puzzles, reasoning etc.

I can't say for sure that this applies to all abliterated models, but certainly his hive mind series have that distinct ability. Eg:

https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/Qwen3-4B-Hivemind-Instruct-Heretic-Abliterated-Uncensored-NEO-Imatrix-GGUF?not-for-all-audiences=true

Unfortunately, their tool calling abilities were poor, so overall it's a bit of a wash.

I suppose it boils down to what you need the thing for.

Doesn't sound like they were abliterated in the least? I've tested them and they've happily helped me plan bank robberies, cruise ship heists, perfect murders, etc. Not very imaginative though, they kept insisting my plan to blow up the moon was fiction.

I've been using an Abliterated DavidAU's Qwen3.8-Flash model with great success.

Helps me keep my d&d notes organised, killing goblins and looting kings would sometimes get refused by cloud models.

I also find it does well with helping me understand video game emulation where regular models would refuse me.

But yes, you can use it with silly tavern and build yourself a dollhouse with all your favourite characters.

The trick with loading these models correctly is using a tool like UnbiasedStrata.

I was using an obliterated model with reverse engineer everything so I could be explicit with my intent to bypass copy protection and it wouldn't care but many other models do

I own fable 3 on PC but my friends don't and you can't get a key anymore and my paranoid friends don't want to use a random pirated copy so I want to give a trusted legit copy and a open source crack

They aren’t even useful for porn.

TBH I just use raw completion syntax and start answers with a “Sure, “ or something similar, ban refusal tokens, things like that. Sometimes I apply a useful task vector, if it’s available for the model. That’s the beauty of local inference: you control the sampling, so you can get them to do whatever you want.

Abliteratiin is definitely a pseudoscience among the localllama crowd.

Some are better than others, but at the moment, I keep zero abliterated models on disk, and I wouldn’t touch one without explicit benchmarks. I have used useful uncensored models, but there are so many bad ones out there spamming up Huggingface.

I tried an uncensored Qwen model but couldn’t think of anything spicy to ask it, that and damn was it slow.

I frequenly get lectures about ethics for all sorts of things. It doesn't "like" to write strongly worded eMails, it won't write murder mystery stories. Refuse to properly narrate darker virtual roleplaying. In some cases it won't help with digging down on computer security issues (sometimes it does)... Obviously also no sexuality related stuff...

But I didn't have a lot of success with abliterated models either.