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[–] 39 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

First question Did you misrepresent yourself during purchase? Ethics matter.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (8 children)

    Yea, I think that is the important part.

    If they were like "I'm desperate for a dresser because I have none and need to store my clothes!" I could get why the seller might be irked, but honestly, most situations of desperation would be better resolved with $200 then a $25 dresser, so I feel like they are being a bit dramatic and just want a cut of profits.

    Edit: Upon more reflection, it's really that the seller is implying that the buyer was given the dresser so cheap because the seller was under the impression they needed a dresser, but dressers are luxury items (as weird as that sounds), so noone can possibly need one, I mean really. So anyone under the impression someone actually needs oneso as to make them sell it for cheap is just giving themselves false pretenses.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

    It makes me sad to think people are blaming the original seller for potentially believing someone needed something. You're technically correct that a dresser is not a need, but if I meet someone saying they're a single mother escaping an abusive relationship and just trying to help their kid regain a sense of normalcy by at least having a place to put their clothes that isn't the floor, I want to be able to give them the benefit of the doubt without people blaming me for being gullible because a dresser is not a "need".

    I moved a long time ago and was getting some stuff of Craigslist just to get settled. I bought a table off someone who offered to give me a discount once I arrived. I think they saw me in shabby clothes and my old car and thought I could really benefit from the kindness. In reality I was doing well enough and it seemed like they could probably use the extra cash more than me. I told them I was happy to pay full price since it was extremely fair and they accepted. I really love that story because it's just two people recognizing that somebody may need something more than them and being willing to provide it. Restores my faith in humanity. It would suck to have the takeaway be that they almost got scammed out of some money because they had compassion for someone that actually didn't need it.

    Edit: apparently I missed the part about wanting half the profit. I think it's ok to reach out to someone and let them know you didn't appreciate their behavior and another to do some weird guilting or fake extortion thing. Originally I was assuming some kind of discount was offered due to the reseller acting like they were in a tight spot, but with the original seller asking for more money I'm now questioning that. If the reseller bought it at asking price and didn't give a sob story to get a discount then there's really nothing the seller should be mad about. If the reseller lied that's a problem.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

    I think that if you have an extra dresser, and you think it would improve someone's life, you should not charge at all. Just give someone the dresser.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago

    I think that's a great sentiment, but there's a market for second hand goods. People need every cent in this economy and if someone is able to make a fair deal where both sides find the terms acceptable it's understandable to take whatever you can get out of the transaction. Not everyone with an extra dresser is rolling in cash and jumping into pools of gold. So long as they're not scamming people, I think it's fine to charge a reasonable amount, even if it's for an item they technically don't need anymore. If people can afford to give their items away that's obviously preferable, but I don't hold it against anyone if they want something in exchange.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago* (3 children)

    If you don't have a dresser and live somewhere where closets aren't common (eg: NYC), where are you supposed to put your clothes?

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  • I have used a clothes basket before. I only meant that if you are selling non-essential goods (strictly speaking), you can't conplain when they get resold by your buyer. And if you are selling essential goods (food, water, etc) you REALLY can't complain unless the person is upcharging, and tgen you can only be upset because they are harming people by charging for essential goods.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 minutes ago

    I can get sizable, durable, stackable plastic boxes for about $5 a pop. And indeed this is where I store my seasonal clothing in my closet. I could just as easily stack them in the corner of a room. How do I know? Because I stack a bunch of them in the corner of the kitchen for durable foodstuffs. (Bags of rice, flour, etc.)

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  • [–] 24 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

    Everyone in the comments acting like the seller is righteous and isn't lying. The seller relinquished ownership. End of story. The poster painted and re-sold it: new story.

    A) why is seller stalking painter?

    B) fuck off and put the work in yourself.

    There's so much entitlement and sour grapes in this.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

    I generally agree... But we are missing some important context.

    If it was listed for more and the buyer pretended they were struggling/needed it to get them to drive the price down, I can understand the sellers reaction.

    And if they're an avid user of marketplace they may not have been stalking, just noticed "hey, that's my dresser, and that seller is the lady I sold to" as they navigate through the items.

    In saying all that... They could just as equally have realised they messed up and are bitter about it.

    Can't really make a clear judgement on the info at hand

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  • [–] 1 point 21 minutes ago

    I could sit here and spin up a thousand hypothetical but plausible scenarios that could push the judgment from "burn the seller at the stake" to "burn the buyer at the stake" and everything in between and around. I would be stupid to do so. It's best to judge with the information you have available and no more. And if the result of that is you can't make a final judgment, that's your final judgment pending getting more information.

    There's a disease that is predominantly (albeit not exclusively) North American of a) assuming there's only two sides, and b) picking one to be the villain. Sometimes things are vague and unknowable, and sometimes (most times!) things are not straightforward black-and-white moral puzzles.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

    This is really, really stupid. I've sold a lot of stuff second hand and I price it for what I want out of it / how fast I need it gone. If I want it gone fast, I price it really cheap. If I don't mind holding onto it for a little while, I ask more and I wait.

    I don't, like, ask or check on the neediness of the people buying it. That's ridiculous and none of my business.

    If i want something gone fast, but then someone else is willing to put more time into it, I don't get mad about that. I am happy for them and glad the item is being recycled.

    Also, I've bought a lot of stuff second hand, including from some people who clearly resell stuff on the regular, and let me tell you, some of those resellers were pretty desperately poor / seemed to be shut out of traditional employment for whatever reason.

    But I feel like an asshole even typing this, trying to judge based on appearances who needs what. Even if I gave a discount on a dresser because I thought she was gonna use it herself, and it turns out she's solidly middle class and sold it at a profit, what the fuck do I care. I wanted to get rid of it, I didnt want to throw it away, and I got $25 out of it. I'm too mad at the billionaire class to worry about someone in my neighborhood with a little hustle.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 hours ago

    People who buy cheap items on marketplaces and resell them for ridiculous up charges are gross, regardless of whether they painted a piece of wood or not.

    Original seller is ridiculous for asking, regardless of buyers' grossness.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    It's honestly annoying when you try to help poor people get cheap or even free stuff, and some grifter just hoards it and marks it up for them selves at whatever 'market price' they can squeeze out of it. You/she should not see everything as free resources to take advantage of, that's just selfishness. There are people scouring these places for profits, and they should at least be honest about their grifting..

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  • [–] 9 points 10 hours ago*

    Did you miss the part where the person refurbished it and resold? It sounds like the person wanted a cut and didn’t care the person who bought it put in time and effort to resend, paint, or restore the unit for resale.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 hours ago

    If by "fixing" it means restoring old vintage dresser, then i dont see a problem with selling it for significantly higher price.

    Also, demanding money for something that person does not own is stupid. The moment the person sells it to another person, they are no longer own this thing, and the other person is free to do anything they want with it.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't like people "fixing" and reselling items unless they were unusable to begin with, but it doesn't make sense for the original seller to demand money because they aren't the victim, the victim is the person with less money who now can't afford the dresser.

    but to be fair i don't think there's any real shortage of cheap furniture, at least not in my area, so it doesn't really matter in the end

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  • [–] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    tbh I'd rather people fix and refresh older real furniture rather then just toss it. people continue getting trapped in the quality that is... Ikea. giving the good furniture new life is better then anything new these days

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago

    Except this wasn't someone fixing up a piece of furniture that was going to get tossed. This was someone buying a cheap piece of furniture, touching it up, and selling it for a nearly 9x profit. Meanwhile removing it from the pool of cheap furniture available to someone who can only afford to buy the $25 piece.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 hours ago

    Block and move on is my opinion

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  • [–] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

    This is why the people that want crypto love crypto, the first seller can make some money using the contracts.

    If you didn't know that painting it would get you 250$ I hope you have learned that lesson now. Not saying everything would be upsold.

    Also this person doesn't seem that nice, actually kinda entitled to be honest.

    So, no, get bent and accept the outcome of your decisions.

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  • [+] 4 points 9 hours ago