The Haters have arrived

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[–] 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

I say that I hate the haters. But also my enthusiasm is dampened a little by the fact that we had to even experience this because people are soooo fucking stupid.

I literally talked to a middle aged gay man recently who admitted he barely understood what happened Tuesday "Oh we elected a new governor? Or something? What are midterms?"

Its like DUUUUDE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT HOW ARE YOU SO OBLIVIOUS???

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  • In my friend group the two people least interested in politics are a queer guy and a hispanic guy. The rest of us are straight white dudes. I am always baffled that they are not more invested as people who are more likely to be negatively impacted.

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  • Ya like, good that we aren't going to back slide into autocracy just yet. But like the reason is because the autocrats were so incredibly stupid and incompetent they did things that are directly tied to raising prices on everyone. If gas prices were low, this would have been like 2018.

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  • [+] -6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    Just remember something. In the United States, you only exist in a democracy if you are in the top 10% of household incomes. Anyone poorer than this has absolutely zero say in government policy. Your votes don't matter.

    And before some mouth-breathing moron starts hyperventilating about "encouraging people not to vote," you can actually go look this up. It's been studied. The opinions of the top 10%, and only the top 10%, are reflected in federal policy going back decades.

    This is why the vast majority of people don't give a shit about democracy in the US. They don't give a shit about protecting a democracy that they themselves are only nominally a part of. Just because you vote doesn't mean your vote actually matters.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)
  • You miss the point. Democrats listen to the wealthiest 10% that happen to be Democrats. Republicans listen to the wealthiest 10% that happen to be Republicans. The parties are two coalitions of the elites. One elite coalition is mostly folks genuinely trying to make the world better. The other....isn't. But it's all a game of elite vs. elite. The rest of us are just along for the ride.

    It's not some conspiracy. It's just social circles. Politicians spend their time interacting with the upper levels of society. Even when they are trying to reach out to ordinary workers, they mostly do so through workers in relatively elite positions, like union leaders. Politicians just don't spend much time interacting with normal people, and thus they don't understand normal people's problems. Politicians of either party will hear about whatever things the wealthiest 10% happen to be worrying about at any given moment. And we very much are influenced by those we spend our time around.

    What bills the new Democratic Congress passes will have nothing to do with what the public as a whole wants. Whatever the wealthiest 10% who happen to be Democrats want? That is what they will focus on, to the exclusion of everything else.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

    This is why the vast majority of people don’t give a shit about democracy in the US.

    I promise you, that is not the reason. Do you get out much? Talk to most people? They aren't paying attention. And most people are not paying attention because they are extremely incurious about anything that doesn't directly effect them.

    EDIT: Actually, they are extremely incurious about anything at all, even if it does directly effect them. People are completely braindead about paying attention to politics.

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  • [–] 52 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Dems won, that's good. They have control of the senate which they haven't had for a while.

    So here's my damper, there was anti-trans legislation passed in blue states and there was an increasing rise of anti-trans rhetoric within the Democrat candidates. I do not want the establishment Dems and their think tanks to get the take away that they won by throwing trans people under the bus.

    I'm still going to be critical of Dems, they have a lot to prove and should be spending these next couple months in meetings on how they deal with the fact Trump will veto everything they do. They will have to find a way to circumvent that veto pen or persecute Trump to the fullest extent possible as well as his regime.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    So here’s my damper, there was anti-trans legislation passed in blue states and there was an increasing rise of anti-trans rhetoric within the Democrat candidates.

    WA state's bullshit is going to die in the courts. I'm sickened that it passed; looking at the districts - king and two other counties rejected it.... but the boondocks voted for it overwhelmingly. you can't put that on the left, on establishment dems, when it's the people in the sticks making it happen.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (4 children)

    Here's an article linked from an LGBT+ focused and friendly online publication. It's not all relegated to just the reactionaries.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    Now is the time for them to start laying the groundwork for actual changes...

    • things like barring lobbying funds from politics (I know, it's the Dems, they'd never do that)
    • anything that claws back the government's power and brings mega corps to heel (naïve, I know!)

    The trump terms have demonstrated that there aren't enough checks and balances because the GOP have demonstrated following the rulebook is optional. If we can't rebuild democracy, we must harden it.

    (I'm a kiwi with no skin in the game here, but now is the time to really start pushing, not celebrating)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    I hate saying this but imma be honest with you. They absolutely won because they abandoned trans rights as a talking point. You have no idea how many peoples single issue with not voting democrats was gender affirming care. They hate it and will tell you in the same breath that circumcision is ok. The only reason so many republicans flipped was because of how bad the economy is performing.

    I’m not saying to abandon trans rights but I think I speak for the majority when I say that running on policy that affects 1% of the population and angers 50% of the population is stupid. Instead of phrasing it to help trans people, we should focus on expanding healthcare access to ALL citizens. Not just trans people.

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  • [–] 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I’m realistic, but also allowed myself to be happy yesterday. Life should be enjoyed. I’m mostly excited about my local elections, as there is a much higher chances of things changing for the better in my state and county.

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