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[–] 27 points 1 week ago (13 children)

For anyone not wanting to click through, the oldest kid was 14.

Despite that, when a 9 year old was injured, the kids called 911 for help, so as bad as it was, it could have been way worse for the kids.

The woman accused says she was in nevada for work, and had a babysitter checking in on the kids before and after school. But not overnight.

Your non llm summary

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Things have changed I guess. $50 for pizza and don't burn the house down, here's the number for our hotel wasn't unusual when I was a kid. A 14 year old could handle the house and sibs for a few days.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Eh, I'm not of the mind that it merits criminal neglect charges either. That being said, I've never met a 14 year old I'd trust that long to keep things on track, and I'm dubious that they should have that level of stress placed on them even if I had. Overnight, absolutely. Maybe a weekend at the most, but once you start into having to manage multiple meals and such, plus safety of multiple kids, the ability to balance things is hard enough for adults.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I admit that I did not read the article, so I don't know how many days the kids were left alone, but I agree that more than a long weekend is too much even by Gen X standards.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    The article didn't specify exactly how long, but it was at least a week based on what I can remember.

    I did some kid sitting around that age, and more later on in my teens. 14 is such a transitional age. I said elsewhere that I've never met a 14yr old that should be left I'm charge for more than a weekend at the most, and that's because there's just so much going on in our heads around then, and the most significant range of development of inhibition and self discipline are just cranking up rather than hitting stride like it does just a year or two later.

    But an almost 15 year old is also pretty different developmentally from a kid that just hit 14.

    That's why I'm not in favor of making this a criminal thing, it's more of a social services issue. Find out the details, see if things really were fine (and the kid did handle the emergency exactly how they should have). Then give the family enough help so it isn't even a thing where the kid would be in that situation again

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

    My stepson back in the day was perfectly competent at 14. His mom's goal was to raise a functioning adult and she did a bangin' job. My ex is raising our kids to be dependant on her for life. Thank god I get them 3-months a year so I can have some influence.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    Yeah assuming they had accessible food and drink I don't really blame the parent unless more was going on I don't know about... It reminds me of that observational comedy bit: "how old is 13... really"

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    4 kids might be a lot, but I thought 14 was the age when a kid was supposed to be able to handle that level of responsibility. You can pay a 14 year old to watch your kids and it's ok, right?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Last I looked, 12 was the minimum age in Florida to leave your kid home alone. Not that that's tightly enforced. Depends on the kid. I'd trust my nearly-14 year old daughter, would not have when she was 11. My son's 11 now and I'm not so sure about him.

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  • You leave your kids alone for just a few days and look what happens.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago*

    | children ages 14, 12, 11 and 9

    This doesn't hit me as too big a deal. 12 is old enough to babysit in Florida, last I checked. It's not really enforced, but we have two kids here able to take that role legally. Not sure on time limits though.

    OTOH, lemmy was where I first learned that kids aren't growing up as fast as Gen X did. That was a revelation! Not saying that's a bad thing. Articles I've read on the subject agree that having a longer childhood is a sign of a healthy society, what with not having to hit the mines at 12.

    I really wish more parents would focus on the goal, raising future adults. Here's a story I heard on the radio and it was appalling:

    Caller is upset that her 17-yo daughter started a fire in the fireplace while home alone.

    "Did she do a proper job of it, or was something unsafe?"

    "No, she did a perfect job, just as she was taught, but she had no business doing that without supervision!"

    I wanted to scream, "Look lady, your kid is within a year of being able to sign up for the military, or any other legal contract. Drinking aside, on her 18th she'll be able to do anything she damned well pleases, including telling you to get fucked. Better act like you understand."

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    Sounds like half the parents in the 80s

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