After a bitter rift with Donald Trump left many in Ukraine fearing that the US president had swung behind Russia again, President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the dispute head on: there’s nothing personal between me and Trump, he told CNN, but cozying up to Vladimir Putin would only “make him stronger.”

Ties between the US and Ukraine have badly deteriorated in recent weeks.

Zelensky said Trump was “on the wrong side of history” after he announced a deal to buy Russian fuel, upending international efforts to isolate Russia. Trump then waived some sanctions against Russia, drawing criticism even from his own party. Ukraine’s forces found their access to the Elon Musk-run Starlink service restricted.

Speaking to CNN from Kyiv on Thursday, Zelensky took a conciliatory tone, saying the tensions were “not about personalities” – but warned that Putin had no intention of stopping the war.

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[–] 51 points 2 weeks ago (37 children)

Trump hates Zelensky for not helping him cheat in the election with biden. He carries grudges to the grave and is one of the most vindictive narcissists I've ever seen.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (31 children)

    He shouldn't have been allowed within a million miles of any Ukraine policy decision. Congress should have stepped in and cut him completely out of the picture. He was impeached for what he did with Ukraine already!

    A complete abdication of governing on the part of Congress.

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  • [+] -30 points 2 weeks ago (30 children)

    Because governing America means sending missiles to Nazis.

    You sound like John Bolton.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (28 children)

    What are you talking about? You are aware that Trump was impeached by Congress for his scheme to get Ukraine to manufacture dirt on Biden.

    That is what I am talking about. The fact that Trump should not be making policy decisions about Ukraine after being impeached for corruption related to Ukraine.

    Please tell me you are not one of the pro Russian big bad NATO and Ukraine Nazis forced poor Russia to attack low effort propaganda losers. Because if you are we can just stop talking now.

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  • [+] -20 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

    Because there's nothing dirty about his crackhead failson being a Ukrainian LNG executive. Right.

    This is everything you need to know about Western aggression against Russia. America fostering fascism abroad started a long time ago.

    Stop talking anytime.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    My god. Please stop. I don't like .ml chodes but something just doesn't feel right about watching you hurt yourself like this in front of others.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (20 children)

    Oh yeah, Ukraine is known for its corruption. I actually studied this and it was really interesting. Basically during the time of the USSR professionals didn't really make very much so it became common to tip/bribe me. This bribing culture still exists to this day in Ukraine, but it really is cultural as opposed to just pure corruption.

    Also, America fosters fascism in every country in the world so there is not a safe spot and Russia and China have both been heavily influenced by US fascism. The picture is so much more complex than you believe. You picked a side, which to my assessment, is pretty fucking silly. The only side you should be on is that of humanity. Fuck the new unspoken alliance between Russia, US, and China. You really need to catch the fuck up.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    ukraine was corrupt until 2014, which was predominately held by a pro-putin government. they ousted the guy, that fled the country. and mike flynn was a huge part in that corruption.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I understand that they have had major reforms to address corruption in the government. I am not trying to disparage Ukraine, just pointing out an interesting part of their bribing culture.

    https://dif.org.ua/en/article/corruption-in-the-everyday-lives-of-ukrainians-for-what-do-we-give-bribes-to-whom-and-why

    It really is a throwback to a previous system and it makes a lot of sense. Ideally it wouldn't be needed if everyone got paid what they deserve, but that is merely my opinion as someove who is not part of their culture.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

    My side is the one not sending missiles to fascists, or anyone else. Silly?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

    Bullshitting yourself is not a very good look.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

    America is directly arming over 80% of the world's dictatorships, making us the least democratic nation on Earth.

    You're the one bullshitting yourself to think any of this is about democracy.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

    What part of fuck the US are you not getting. Go talk with some pro capitalist on Reddit. You are so far out of your league it isn't funny. China just moved to the fourth largest weapons producer and is providing material support to Russia to prolong the Ukraine conflict. Fucking North Korea sent them missiles. You are fucking blind to what is going on.

    Do you think I believe in the lie of democracy!? Good lord your assumptions definitely make an ass out of you.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

    Bruh.

    I do believe in democracy. My government doesn't, and that didn't start with Trump.

    I've seen the results of a unipolar world order my entire life. I'm older than "Ukraine".

    Even most Americans see America as the problem.

    America and Europe are out of control and need to be stopped. A unipolar world order is humanity's only hope.

    So yeah, help Russia. Good. More. Please. 👍

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

    Yup, US, Russia, France, China, Germany are the big producers. Like I said, you are way out of your league. The US is the worst, yes. If the US didn't exist all the others would quickly fill that vacuum. You are extremely naive when it comes to this.

    You believe in the lie of democracy that the wealthy created!? I suppose in some alternative universe without capitalism, with a highly educated citizenship, and with a ton of tightly enforced gaurdrails the concept of democracy could have a chance.

    Russia is attacking its own brothers and sisters but the US needs to stop? Yes the US needs to stop bombing brown people, but let's not pretend you care about them other than a propaganda point.

    I am done pretending this is even about nations anymore. This entire discussion maybe would make sense several decades ago, but we know better now. The ultra wealthy exist without countries and they are pulling the levers and lifting the strings to create oppression for profit. This is the real enemy of humanity.

    No country on Earth deserves the human race. Perhaps in the future some government/country/state will be deserving. Until then I am on the side of humanity and campists can get bent.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

    You seem to be coming from a good place, but with bad information.

    Yes, brothers and sisters. That's why more former Ukrainians have left for Russia than any other nation, all despite Kiev trying to prevent that at the cost of many lives.

    Western corporate news claims Russia is "kidnapping" orphans when they reunite them with their closest kin in Russia. They're implying that the state owns the children, not their family.

    And look at the deaths, mostly inflicted by Kiev's fascists militias, like Azov and Adyr Battalions. They're against "waiters", their name for people refusing to relocate West, waiting for liberation.

    The war to defend democratic secession after a US bankrolled coup has seen the lowest civilian death rate than any major conflict in modern history. Look at Gaza, the numbers are reversed.

    This is what a war of liberation looks like, not a war of annihilation.

    Not all conflicts are waged by genocidal monsters. That's just what you're used to.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    Wow, that is not how any of that happened, it is clear my original statement that you were using low effort Russian propaganda is borne out. I am afraid you are in too deep and you need some serious deprogramming. Carrying water for China is one thing that I don't agree with, but carry water for Russia!? They are liberating Ukraine... You have got to be fucking kidding me.

    Russia has an extensive history with genocide and they are literally allied with the US. You really need to get some new propaganda.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    And who has Russia committed "genocide" against? This should be rich.

    If anyone's commiting genocide, it's Kiev and their forced conscription of millions of men, and how they send ethnic Russians and other "undesirables" to the frontlines while Banderites cower in Lvov.

    www.busification.org/en

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

    You must be joking, but just in case.

    Circassian Genocide: The Russian Empire's conquest during the Caucasian War involved mass killings, village burnings, and the forced displacement of up to 97% of the Circassian population, leading to over 1 million deaths and wide-scale exile.

    The Holodomor: The Stalinist regime engineered a catastrophic, man-made famine in Ukraine resulting in about 4 million deaths, alongside the suppression of Ukrainian cultural and political figures.

    Soviet National Campaigns and Repressions: Under Stalin, the Soviet state executed mass operations like de-kulakisation (impacting 2 million peasants), targeted ethnic purges against minority groups, and the Great Terror.

    Deportation of Chechens and Ingush: Operation Lentil involved the brutal, forced deportation of entire Chechen and Ingush populations to Central Asia, resulting in severe loss of life.

    Chechnya: Both imperial and modern Russian military actions in Chechnya, including the Chechen Wars, caused massive civilian casualties and atrocities.

    Invasion of Ukraine: Russia's ongoing aggression—marked by child deportations, mass executions, systemic infrastructure targeting, and state rhetoric

    https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/putin-is-building-a-legal-purgatory-for-exiled-russians

    Funny, it looks like everything you accuse Ukraine of Russia is also doing. Just how many Russians has Putin gotten murdered now? Half a million! He is fucking genociding his own people and you are cheering him on. Let's not pretend that you care about human life though, we know better.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Russia is "doing"? You're citing crimes of the Tsar from the 1800s. The Imperialist Russian party is the opposition to Putin. Fascists like Navalny, Rest In Piss. He called Muslims cockroaches and vermin, attended Imperialist Russian marches. The Nazis in Russia are the OPPOSITION, your ALLIES!

    You're repeating Goebbels's same regurgitated propaganda, and no one believed it then either.

    Watching Chechens stack the corpses of Azov Battalion on the street of Mariupol was my Super Bowl. They had kept a city of 400,000 "waiters" hostage. Its liberation was a historic day in history, and we have the Chechen people partly to thank. They are just one of 190 different ethnic folks who make up a plural society within the Russian Federation. I know you'd like to balkanize it all and have everyone killing each other like Yugoslavia, but that ain't happening anymore.

    Mass executions in Bucha were committed by Azov Battalion, who cleared the city in "Safaris", killing anyone with a non-combatants' white cloth or Russian MREs.

    The "child abductions" are orphans being reunited with their closest kin, wherever that may be, Ukraine, Russia, Europe, wherever.

    You are trying to imply that the state owns children, not their family. Fuck right off with that shit.

    The most ignorant people are always the most self assured. Get your head out of your ass.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Don't worry, I blame all US genocides in history on the current US as well. You don't get to change leaders and suddenly be absolved of your history. I noticed you conveniently ignoring all the modern day examples. No surprise there.

    I never said a word about the opposition parties in Russia. Not sure why you are bringing this up, but perhaps it is a topic you are more comfortable with rather than confronting the mass slaughter of your countrymen, brothers, and sisters over Kremlin lies. It is clear you don't care about human life at all.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Because I know what's happening on the other side of the world, that means I must live there?

    Are the Russians in the room with you right now?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Listen, you don't care about human life. I do. That is the difference between us. Everything else is just a smokescreen and I am tired of choking on your shit.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    That's right. I'm "Russian", and they don't feel things like normal people. Right?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I absolutely love the Russian people. Their government, not so much.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    No. As Zelensky said there's nothing personal. trump was blocking aid to Ukraine even before that. Trump's first impeachment was over blocking Congress' approved aid. The Congress investigation regarding election interference showed that there was agreement between trump's campaign and Russia that if he wins he will allow to install puppet government in Ukraine. Manafort (his campaign manager) was central part of it.

    If you look what effort trump puts to help Russia looks like there are only those possibilities:

    1. He is Russian agent
    2. He is promised lucrative business deals
    3. Putin has a blackmail on him

    More and more looks like it is #3 and not just him but other Republicans (and probably some Democrats too).

    I mean there's the election in two weeks that he appears to care about, yet he comes openly pro Russia (couldn't he wait few weeks?).

    Then there's outrage, points fingers at others when starlink was stopped, he backs down (restores intelligence sharing and starlink, though keeps removed sanctions).

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You can get trump to do anything fairly easily. He's a demented malignant narcissist and he's one of the dumbest MFs I've ever seen. Those things make it child's play to manipulate him. This is why they want him in power.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    That's what Manny leaders in Europe thought, yet it didn't work. No matter what he always sides with Russia.

    I think what confuses people is that they mixing up what he says with what he does. Those are two very different things.

    Latest example:

    • he says he will deliver tomahawk missiles to Ukraine or open factory in Ukraine to produce patriots (never happened)
    • he didn't say, just did: cut intelligence sharing, restricted starlink and starshield, lifted sanctions on Russia

    He might seem to act randomlu but if you start asking yourself if given move benefits Russia, then he is so predictable, because it always does.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I mean there’s the election in two weeks that he appears to care about, yet he comes openly pro Russia (couldn’t he wait few weeks?).

    Yeah, this is the main thing that has made me really start believing it's blackmail. It's such a nonsensical move that I can't justify it any other way than blackmail.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    Ever the diplomat. I'm sure he'd like to put Trump in the Hague right next to Putin. Assuming they survive that far.

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  • [+] -24 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    That's every President of the modern age, and all worse than Putin by far. Obama alone has killed hundreds of thousands more civilians than Putin.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Just because America bad, doesn't mean their enemies are good guys.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    So all those civilians bombed by Obama's drones were our "enemies"? Fuck right the fuck off.

    I don't have enemies. My enemies are people trying to convince me I have enemies, and they are 100% domestic.

    You're my enemy, along with your Epstein Class overlords.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    So all those civilians bombed by Obama’s drones were our “enemies”?

    That is, in no way, what the person you're responding to said.

    I don’t have enemies.

    You’re my enemy

    You're unhinged, my guy.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I was about to reply. Then I saw the instance.

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  • [+] 27 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)
  • [+] -50 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

    He's a kapo stooge who sold out everyone who voted for his promises of peace.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Hard to have peace when your country is being fucking invaded.

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  • [+] -35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    There was peace. The Minsk Agreement. He campaigned on maintaining it and won. Zelensky watched helplessly as Azov Battalion shelled Donetsk. That's why Russia entered the conflict. Not in Ukraine, in the already seceded Donetsk and Luhansk Peoples Republics.

    Zelensky is a Jewish mascot figure for Nazis. And he'll never outlive his usefulness to them.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Man please have some logic. How can THAT picture be zoomed so much? You claim to be antifascist but you're just a bootlicker of a fascist regime

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  • [+] -12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You're very confident in something you demonstrably know little about.

    It was widely reported. Look it up. Zelensky has had to remove three different posts of Totenkopfs from social media. But to be fair, he doesn't control his account, just like he doesn't control his government.

    Petroshenko the Chocolate King was no different, except he controlled things ,still does.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Posts a fake picture

    Gets called out

    Posts another picture

    Go on buddy.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    I’m gonna come take your house. You had better let me have it otherwise you are a warmonger. Stop fighting back. That’s not very peaceful of you.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Is the child's analogy that informs you? When fascists overthrew the democratically elected government they took every house in Ukraine. That's why millions of people are no longer Ukrainian.

    They're fighting for the democratic human right of self determination, same as Palestinians. The only difference is that the military/civilian deaths are directly inversed. This is what a war of liberation looks like, not a war of annihilation.

    Democracy:

    Not democracy:

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  • [–] 15 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Get out of here talking about democracy bootlicker. Russia has had the same dictator in power for 26 years now and arrests citizens that hold up blank sheets of paper. Your warped Russian "democracy" is not the same as ours. If we don't like our leaders we will protest and have new elections, the Russian puppet Yanukovic was forced out when he betrayed his own election promises to the people, funny how that only bothers you when it's Zelensky. You meek Russian cucks wouldn't understand this, you just prefer to bend over and take it from a bald stump of a man.

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  • [+] -14 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    The West necessitate a strongman leader, elected or not, just to stay sovereign. Otherwise, we use liberal institutions to undermine foreign governments with NGOs acting as espionage agencies, then privatize all their natural resources and keep the people in feudal bondage as corporate serfs. Neoliberalism enslaves entire nations at a time.

    Blackrock owns Ukraine now. Look it up.

    Men can't even leave to escape this fascist death cult.

    Why is everything gay submission to you NAFO guys? Comes off as super homophobic.

    Yanukovych promised the European trade deal because it was better. Staying out of the EU and NATO was so important to Russia that they simply countered with an objectively better deal. No one is denying that. If Yanukovych didn't take the better deal then that would have made him corrupt, a traitor.

    And if a broken campaign promise makes justification for the overthrow of an elected leader, then every elected leader in America should be run out of town. But that's not how democracy works. That's a coup.

    Elections decide governments, not Svoboda led Banderite mobs.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    The West necessitate a strongman leader, elected or not

    This is the scary story your strongman leader tells you, only strong daddy Putin can protect you from the evil west. He makes you fear the western boogy man who wants to steal your resources, but don't be afraid because daddy Putin is strong. While you cucks are cowering at the thought of your precious resources being taken by the west, Putin and his mafia are robbing Russia's resource wealth blind buying super yachts and London mansions. Everything is the fault of the west, don't look at your kleptocratic leader too closely.

    The Russian deal offered to Yanukovic was not objectively better than what the EU was offering, some short term benefits were not better for Ukraine than the EU deal in the long term. The Ukrainian people wanted out of the Russian sphere and the dead end lack of development that offered. Ukraine looked at the success of Poland in the EU and decided that is the future they wanted. They wanted that future so badly they are willing to fight and die to earn their divorce from Russia and Russia can't handle this further loss of standing.

    And if a broken campaign promise makes justification for the overthrow of an elected leader, then every elected leader in America should be run out of

    You use America and it's simulation of democracy as your example because you know that governments collapse and get thrown out all of the time in Europe then the ruling parties break election promises and lose their mandate. We don't get to the point of popular uprisings because when governments realise they have lost the support of the people they stand down and call early elections for the peaceful transfer of power. Yanukovic, under his puppet masters instructions, tried to cling to power despite losing the support of the people and the popular uprising followed.

    You and I have had discussions before regarding the differences between a popular uprising and a coup. Despite being corrected and educated on the difference, you carry on calling it a coup. You must not be allowed to deviate from your script.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    TL;DR

    blah blah blah blah

    A coup is a coup is a coup is a coup.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    blah blah blah blah

    The response of a fool when he has no answer to give, I'll take my victory lap. .

    A coup is a coup is a coup is a coup.

    Only true when one doesn't understand what a coup actually is.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    Bootlickers like you advertise it. Thanks.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Funny I was thinking that of you.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I applaud Zelensky for his restraint.

    Because there is absolutely no way it isn't personal. This pedo rapist traitor is betraying Zelensky's country and siding with its enemy as it's being invaded and a ton of his countrymen are being killed.

    It's WAY personal.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago

    Oh there's most certainly something personal between them. He's just too much of a gentleman to say so, unlike our narcissistic nit-wit.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Of course not. For something personal, two people need to be involved with personality.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Do people believe there was any personal feelings, hard or otherwise, between these two? It all seems very transactional to me.

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