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A report just in from the Kernel Maintainers Summit on 8 October reveals just how full AI slop the Linux kernel project has gone. And so has project leader Linus Torvalds.

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[–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Nothing in this article hints to "slop". Or you and I have very different definitions.

And if you come around with a claim like that is prefer a link to an accepted PR or patch any day.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'd trust a guy who tamed hundreds of nerds writing code for three decades with taming autocomplete

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I switched to Linux many years ago, but now I am a bit worried which path it will take.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Windows and I'm sure apple's path are already there, but being Linux means this is fully public. I hope Linus and the rest of the developers who are starting to lean on LLMs take a good look inwards.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Jesus the pearl clutching and over reacting in here is ridiculous.

    Exactly what do you think is going to happen that is so horrible?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Some of it for me at least is moral. They stole all our data to create this shit and are selling it back to us, it’s destroying the planet and communities near these stupid data centers, it’s constantly being used and pushed to further human suffering, surveillance, pricing, war and death etc. I really want no part in it, but that’s becoming increasingly difficult.

    Then on top of that, it hallucinates and lies. Chances for bugs or things getting snuck in increase. Since people didn’t write the code, they don’t understand it, so maintainability goes down.

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    Then on top of that, it hallucinates and lies. Chances for bugs or things getting snuck in increase. Since people didn’t write the code, they don’t understand it, so maintainability goes down.

    This is called a "self correcting problem". If it doesn't work people will correct by either "not using it" or "learning to use it more effectively".

    Do you think everyone is just going to throw their hands up and be like "well the ai done fucked up again, what're you gonna do?"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That’s reality. Deal with it. That genie is out of the bottle. You’re not getting it back. And you’re not getting it back whether you are a photographer who’s out of work. Those things are gone, right? Because you can fake pictures so much better now. Or you’re a programmer that has to learn to deal with a new reality.

    I think actually on the programming side, we’re in a fairly good spot. I really think that AI will be a tool and it will make people more productive. I think that vibe coding is great for getting into programming. I think it’s going to be a horrible thing to maintain.

    Rare Torvalds L

    Also case #10262973 of someone thinking that genAI will replace jobs they aren’t well versed in while their own job, which is under equal pressure of genAI, is pretty safe since AI could never fully replace their own work.

    Authors think AI replaces Musicians, Musicians think AI replaces IT, IT thinks AI replaces Photographers, Photographers think AI replaces Artists and so on and so on and also vice versa and across. Everyone is doomed except for us amirite

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Authors think AI replaces Musicians, Musicians think AI replaces IT, IT thinks AI replaces Photographers, Photographers think AI replaces Artists and so on and so on and also vice versa and across. Everyone is doomed except for us amirite

    Except they often also think their own field is only being undercut by ignorant people pushing genAI where it doesn't fit because they don't know about the minute details that contribute to expertise in the field.

    Somehow, completely missing the point reflected in their own belief.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I know it's very recent but the latest models no longer produce slop. This article would have made sense 6 months ago. Today it just tells me that Torvalds is surprisingly up-to-date and whoever wrote this is behind the times.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago

    i've been planning to install netbsd to my servers, since they banned ai slop.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Maybe i just dont upgrade for a while until FAFO finishes

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  • [–] -4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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