Pike’s lawyers said she is back in same prison she’s lived in for last 30 years and will continue to receive medical care

Christa Pike has been discharged from the hospital after surviving Tennessee’s botched 30 September attempt to execute her by lethal injection and is back in prison, her lawyers said on Saturday.

Saturday’s update about Pike came 10 days after the death row prisoner was given two doses of pentobarbital, a lethal injection drug, in what proved to be a failed execution attempt. She was hospitalized after surviving the botched execution and was declared brain dead on Monday.

But in a shocking turnaround, on Thursday her lawyer said that she was “up and walking” – though she remained “somewhat foggy” and wasn’t able to use her arms very much.

Pike said that her arms were burning during the failed execution and asked if it was supposed to feel that way. Witnesses present in the chamber said that “nothing was normal” while officials have maintained that they followed every step of Tennessee’s approved execution protocol.

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[–] 95 points 1 month ago (20 children)

how can someone be declared brain dead and then wake up the next day with no mayor neurological damage?
were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?

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  • [–] 96 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's the US, how does someone who is brain dead still have their job on the senate?

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago

    were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?

    I'd imagine so, yes. Clean up the loose ends as it were. Trying, twice, to kill someone and having them still walking around is rather embarassing after all.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Probably the same docs who botched her execution declared her brain dead

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    The thing is that no doctors are involved in the executions. They take the Hippocratic Oath so they swear to not willingly do harm. The people doing these executions are usually prison staff that have no medical training.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    They don’t need to take that oath anymore and haven’t for a long time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    There is also legal assisted suicide in Canada and parts of EU. I believe doctors are invilolved in that

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The Hippocratic oath also includes a promise not to perform surgery, and to leave that to surgeons:

    I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

    Gets broken every day.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    That's the original ancient oath. There are modernised versions. As of 2018, all US medical school graduates made some form of public oath but none used the original Hippocratic Oath. A modified form or an oath unique to that school is often used.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?

    That's what I was thinking as well. You don't just miraculously wake up within a day from no brain activity measured. Someone intentionally manipulated a measurement or just skipped it.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 month ago

    Fucking barbarians

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  • [–] 56 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    "Once she's healthy enough, we can execute her again!"

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Doesn't this reach the bar for cruel and unusual punishment?

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Much of what I've read about the American prison system would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment. The same applies to the Canadian system more than I'd like to admit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I think it's reached the point in the USA where it's most definitely cruel (which as always with conservatives, is the whole point), but can't really be called unusual given that it's become the norm in that miserable shithole.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Imagine how weird it must be to see your prison friend finally get shipped off to death row, have a sad goodbye, prepare yourself for life without her, and then she just casually walks back into prison.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I was thinking how weird it must have been to receive a lethal injection, black out, and then wake up somewhere. That must have been real mind-blowing for a moment.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago

    This is what happens when you have death cult officials that are trying to bring about the end times.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago*

    The prison system is so rotten and corrupt to enrich the few and hurt many. The number of people in prison is deplorable and a sign that the system is rotten to have so many. We can see what helps people out of poverty and crimes and deaths of desperation, but do the opposite too often, so this is the result of that. Unhealthy systems produce unhealthy society and people. All this suffering to enrich industries related to prisons too, like all the concentration camps and supporting businesses in on the violent grift. This is the sickness of doubling down on unhealthy ways.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Pike said that her arms were burning during the failed execution and asked if it was supposed to feel that way.

    That's a sign of the injection going a wrong way, namely somewhere else than the vein where it probably was supposed to be. Idk if it happens with just any intravenous injections, but I got exactly that feeling when mine didn't go into the vein.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    life imprisonment has a 100% success rate.

    No one has ever survived.

    That's got to cost less for the taxpayers than the legal shitstorm that's going to follow in the wake of this incident.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Yeah but then you don't get the blood thirsty pro-life conservatives who froth at the mouth to kill anyone not in utero frothing at the mouth waiting for others to die.

    These are the same people who don't want socialized healthcare, regardless on how much more cost effective it is at both a personal level and a government level.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    Witnesses present in the chamber said that “nothing was normal”

    As opposed to non-botched, routine state execution matinees they go to every Thursday.

    "Normal"?

    Nothing about this is normal, even if the woman had died in the expected manner.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Do the witnesses spend a lot of their free time watching people get executed enough to have a frame of reference?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    They would certainly have known what to expect.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    True. Even if they don’t know the process, everyone would expect the same outcome. Though the wording makes it sound like they had an understanding of the process itself. I’m probably either reading it wrong or reading too much into it.

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    [–] 23 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    If at any point she died and was brought back I foresee an interesting legal argument to her being set free.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    I've heard this is why death sentences state "hanged by the neck until dead." Someone survived a hanging at one point and successfully argued that their sentence had been carried out, so they could not be hanged again. I read about it years ago, I don't remember details. All this is to say she might not be able to make that point. Either way, you're right. It's gonna be interesting.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    But can you legally die and then be revived? Like say someone's heart stopped for 30 seconds and then they came back to?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    If I remember correctly a guy tried to argue this in court a couple years ago after having a heart attack in jail and the judge ruled that since he was in court arguing his case he was still alive and the life sentence was still in effect.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Not really. Despite the tails you hear about people saying they were dead and came back after seeing heaven, and saying stuff like they had a heart attack and died three times on the way to the hospital, those aren’t dead. Do you think any of those cases would be willing to send all their stuff off to whoever is inheriting it? The laws know this and the sentence is not going away on a gotcha. Otherwise people with life sentences or on death row would be trying to give themselves survivable heart attacks all the time. Not a fan of the justice system or the death penalty in general, but this lady is there for a good reason. It may functionally turn into a life sentence but they sure aren’t letting her go free.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Judges usually don't like tricks like trying to argue a definition of death in which the person is alive afterward. It wouldn't be accepted in the other direction either; an assailant whose victim is alive is not guilty of murder.

    There are certainly legal arguments against trying to execute her again, but if one succeeds, the outcome will be life in prison, not release.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I read that at some point in hospital she was declared brain dead, which surprised me, because normally that's not a temporary condition, but in the BBC article they just say "Her legal team believed for days that she was brain dead and expected her to be taken off life support at any moment.", which is not the same thing.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    As much as I oppose capital punishment, if you guys have to do it, why not use something that's a guaranteed kill? IDK, a super fast head crushing machine or something.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Or monoxide, what happened to carbon monoxide?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Isn't that like drowning/suffocating? I was thinking instant death, be humain if you must kill someone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Monoxide is the one that is dangerous because it makes you sleepy and then you die in your sleep. Dioxide is the one that feels like suffocating (because it's literally the same. Your lungs can no longer get rid of the CO2 in your body and that's very painful to us).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    30 years to kill her? Why do long?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    sooo.. is she a zombie then?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I mean part of me says let her go because she's already been executed and didn't die so there's that. However she also horrifically murdered somebody so part of me says walk her out to a cliff and push her off. If they did let her go she would have to wear an ankle monitor at all times and subject herself to drug tests daily.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago

    What happened to hanged till death?

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