Ah yes, less optimism. Exactly what we want out of Star Trek and entertainment in general these days.

So many fans would be happy with seeing a different crew with their own top notch Starfleet crew, involved in their own mission that, while might not be galaxy-breaking, is crucial to part of established history somehow (like how they connected Khitomer in several ways). Why do we have to keep inventing new timelines or move into the future more or new looks for canon ships?

What I would not give to never hear about another Star Trek film "in the works" before it actually starts filming.

Daley: Entirely. No legacy characters, nobody that you’ve met before. A different time, not a different timeline per se, but it’s a little further in the future. Goldstein: Sort of a different timeline.

Thanks for clearing that up, guys.

sigh.

kinda funny since someone had just posted on how star trek was losing its utopia thing and I piped in that they seem to want to make it gritty and dark which is kinda against the grain of the original concept.

Hey how about we make a Star Trek movie that has nothing to do with and does not even resemble Star Trek. At this point just make an original movie.

I guess it could be said that "darker" is relative. Given the kind of light hearted movies they have made before this, it could very well be just a more serious movie compared to Honor Among Thieves. Which is a great flick.

With that said, I wonder if the reason they have been so bad as explaining this movie is because Paramount are telling them to be vague. So it could also just be they suck at being vague.

I will assume it will be shit until proven otherwise. I would love to be pleasantly surprised though.

The Mirror Universe still canon?

Nice to see it's not dead!

Whatever man. Paramount doesn't get my views or my $$.

We don't need a new timeline. We could just get a new ship and story in the same timeline in any generation