I've played AoE since the first version along with various others. Are there any games like AoE or C&C - real time, build bases to built units, harvest resources - but MUCH larger maps? That allow you to turtle up at a nice slow pace and then take out your enemies?

I play Civ and with mods for larger map sizes, it fills one need, but I'd really like a larger real-time harvest-resources type game, so… figured I'd ask.

I'm a casual player. I tweak settings on AoE to slow down the AI coming to attack me so I can build up walls and impenetrable lines of outposts and keeps. heh. So then I can send out raiding armies at my leisure. But it's not perfect, and the largest maps are still too small for my preferences.

Nova Roma is really nice as a city builder - if that had huge huge maps and other cities t conquer, it might be perfect. heh.