I’ve gotten very into self-hosting (on device, not on a server) my own search engine, but searxng is unbearably clunky to make run on my Gentoo OpenRC machine. Two projects stuck out, 4get and omnisearch, but which of these do you think is the best and do you know other ones?

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[–] 13 points 1 month ago (19 children)

Kagi's on top ! It's a few bucks per month, but search results are amazing, it surface small websites and block slop.

It even allows you to block useless websites like pinterest

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Why even bother commenting this if you’re not willing to elaborate?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    I don't have the answer to your qustion, but I like to occasionally consider that there is no such thing as a stupid action, only an action that I don't understand.

    Why would someone talk like that?

    Some possibilities:

    1. To stem all future criticism of Kagi by making the first and the most at the time visible criticism sound braindead. Thus creating an association that all of criticism is braindead.
    2. To use the reverse psychology to promote Kagi. You say it sucks, and you don't think it's worth your time to even explain it? Well, I am a rebel, so as a fuck you, I will use Kagi.
    3. To further lock in the attention and the mental resources on Kagi. Love it or hate it, be indifferent to it, but here we are thinking about Kagi. Kagi's profile has been raised.

    These three immediately jump at me, because I see people preaching Kagi in a manner of an influence op.

    So these negs could be part of the op.

    Again. Not saying I know. I don't. And I likely won't use Kagi myself. It's just fun to speculate a bit.

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    That was not an LLM. That said, I do use a chatbot like once a week. Maybe some of their speegh patterns are rubbing off?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yes, it has been scientifically proven that you are getting dumber by using an LLM regularly to do your thinking for you. Congratulations.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    You DO realize that you're firing on your own team, right?

    Let's not do that, here. This is our community, it's what you and I make of it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I am most definitely not on the same team as people that use chatbots so often they start to mimic their slop-style writing techniques. Worry about yourself, you don't get to decide what team I am on, tyvm.

    Also, I am not "just being an ass", I am paraphrasing MIT scientific research.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Once again, this place is your community and my community. You can build your people up or tear them down.

    If you aren't here to build community then you should ask yourself what really feeds you.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago

    You aren't "building community" either, you are dictating how other people are supposed to think while doing your level best to beat your moral high-horse to death. Stop putting people in boxes for them and get fucked with this cyber-hippy bullshit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    300 is low, i agree. but idk, if it's a free product, then YOU are the product. is my data still being used in ways that profit a few and invade my privacy? probably, but less than google i hope.

    I am on the anti-AI side of things, by nature of being human. and yeah, there's some AI shit in kagi, as with seemingly all others. but it at least it's opt-in (i think). i've never seen it shoved in my face, which i can't say for example duckduckgo.

    can't tell u what price is best for you, or what UI u prefer. but trash? no. google is trash.

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    [–] 20 points 1 month ago

    Kagi is what I wound up going with

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    https://hister.org/

    Not a traditional search engine, but reduces the need for one on repeated searches. Your own web traffic is the crawling, saved and indexed locally for future lookups.

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    I've been building a search engine for rhe last year. Expect a Q4 release next year, who knows maybe even earlier.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Yacy has been around awhile. It can run solo or p2p

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    YaCy isn't just a peer-to-peer search-engine, it can be run as a non-connected private node as well. The operator decides whether they want to contribute to the larger peer-to-peer network, a private network or as a lone-node as a personal search-engine. However, any search-engine will struggle on lackluster hardware.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    No one uses YaCy and no one ought to. I have a grudge against the developer for creating the worst search engine architecture known to everyone.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Clocks

    Can you expand upon this? I've tried to run YaCy before and I always seem to reach a point where the index becomes too large for my computer to handle, meaning YaCy will crash or refuse to start. I always put this down to my system not having enough ram though. Technically what do you dislike about the program?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    not sure how private but i'm using duckduckgo, eTools.ch and 4get.ca these days

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