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[–] 43 points 1 month ago* (17 children)

The referendum was in 2016.

Let's pretend she spent 4 years living under a rock and didn't hear anything till the papers were signed.

She had 2 years to apply for residence from Brexit in Januari 2020 to the end of 2021, which would have basically been automatically granted. She didn't. Brexit wasn't exactly the smallest event to happen...

Then, she applied two years late and was told in 2023 she couldn't stay and had to leave. The article is extremely silent on whether she appealed.

She ignored everything for three more years.

Now, in 2026 she was told she's getting kicked out, and is pretending it's everyone's fault but her own, and crying its all too sudden.

She has had 6 years to do something. She has literally nobody to blame but herself. Over 2300 days in which to do literally anything, but nope.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I do think her age kind of comes into play here though and warrants some leniency.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah, we should give her a couple years to get her paperwork in order. If she doesn't, give her some time to get her life together and move back to her home country.

    Oh wait, that already happened and she's used up that grace period.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Thomas, a retired nurse, who has lived in Sweden for 22 years, was given four weeks to leave the country in August, separating her from her son, grandchildren, large network of friends, her church and her husband’s grave.

    Her husband, Gwynne, died in 2023 of cancer. It was on a trip back from the UK in 2022, when they visited their second son in Brighton, that they first learned they should have made a formal application to stay in Sweden after Brexit. Joyce Thomas, 78, is facing deportation over Brexit from Sweden

    Her subsequent application to stay in the country in 2023 missed the official deadline but she said her husband who looked after all the household administration, had previously been told there was nothing the couple needed to do after Brexit.

    It sounds like there wasn't a proper follow up and with her husband's death, she simply wasn't aware. I have elderly family members that I could see finding themselves in the same situation, cognitively I mean, they are all in country. I barely keep on top of things myself tbh.

    Rules are rules and all but it sounds a bit harsh.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I don't. Retired people have nothing better to do, and can get any appointment that is available at any point. 70 years aren't dementia riddled moving corpses, they can pick up a phone.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    I'm shocked at this lack of empathy by, well, almost all of you in this thread.

    Y'all act like Republicans.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    She had 4 years of warning, 2 years of time to make the request, and since she heard she couldn't stay, she's had 3.5 years to do it.

    Isn't that extremely lenient already?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    So, how much leniency would you think is a good amount? What would you suggest happen?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    she should be granted residency in Sweden.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    Lady, you're just going back to the UK. You're not going to a concentration camp, CECOT, or Rwanda. You'll be fine.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    She has no-one to blame but herself.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 month ago (17 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It is your responsibility to know the laws of any country you visit, let alone move to.

    Edit: while they are supposed to have nebulous rights to stay in the EU, most EU countries have not moved on that, and they would be in a weird limbo where they were allowed to stay(according to the agreement), but also not vote or work.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    Not being aware of the local law.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    After Brexit, Britons and EU citizens who had exercised those free movement rights were told their rights to remain in their host country would be guaranteed in the legally binding withdrawal agreement.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/20/british-man-torn-from-swedish-wife-and-home

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  • [–] [S] 18 points 1 month ago* (11 children)

    Victimblaming.

    Sweden is among 13 countries, along with the UK, that opted for a “constitutive” system requiring citizens to formally apply to remain in the country. Others, like Spain, opted for a less onerous “declaratory” system requiring registration in the country, something many Britons would already have done at their town hall.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Being ignorant of the law doesn't work in any jurisdiction.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago (9 children)
  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    She's wealthy and connected enough to have known better.

    Also throwing names is childish.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    But campaigners at Brits in Sweden say countless British citizens were either given no information or incorrect information about what to do after Brexit by the authorities.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    This is the British governments fault primarily. It was the British government's responsibility to take care of their citizens and negotiate something.

    The remainder lies with the just ousted right wing Swedish government

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    She was born in the wrong place? Like if you're born in Taiwan you stay in Taiwan. If you're born in Mexico you stay in Mexico. If you're born in Nepal, you stay in Nepal. If you're born on earth you stay on earth.

    Right? Stay where you were born. If you're born in Africa in the worst possible conditions, stay there. That makes a lot of sense to me... Since I don't live in Africa in the worst possible conditions.

    Whatever happened to risking it all to make it big elsewhere? Remember? Like you want to be an ass-tronaut then go live in Florida and try getting into NASA... sorry I meant NAZA... If you want to be a great painter? Italy, France, Netherlands, Montana, Japan, Alaska. Singer? Las Vegas! A photo lithography expert... Netherlands, Tokyo, Taiwan, California. Biologist? California, Philadelphia. Ceramic expert? Mexico, China, Japan. Wild animal expert? Mexico, Thailand, Brazil Africa. Everywhere has possibilities but some areas have more than others.

    So, no, I think that once you figure out what you want to do, you work your way up to meet the challenge.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    I think that once you figure out what you want to do, you work your way up to meet the challenge.

    Ok, but her whole mess started her NOT doing anything and ignoring the situation till the last possible minute. And then complaining it's very sudden and mean.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    trying to equate that to death sentence is some mental gymnastics. thought she could live tax free in another country.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (10 children)

    I guess the lessons in these cases is that you can't rest easy in any country unless you're a citizen there. That's the only way to guarantee permanent residency under shifting political climates.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    She lost automatic eligibility for residency when brexit happened. She only needed to register to remain but didn’t.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Indeed. But none of this would have been an issue if she had applied for citizenship after the first eight years of her 22 year stay in Sweden.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (4 children)

    Some people don't want to take citizenship of the country they are immigrating into. I know a few in such position.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Absolutely. But my impression is that people who are planning to stay permanently in a country, yet doesn't want citizenship of that country, tend to overlook the chance that they will one day be kicked out.

    To be fair, the chance is very small, but as we can see, it happens.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think people do that because of sentimental reasons. Also some countries have restrictions on dual citizenship so you either have to jump trough hoops or make a decision you dont want to make.

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